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Re: Tron Legacy: What a disappointment
 Originally Posted by anatess
In comes Legacy. I'm only going to hit on the major points here.
If you haven't watched the movie, this may be a big spoiler!
The beginning was very exciting! Flynn's son Sam hacks into Encom which is now all pizzaz with all new technology and webbed and all. Encom is still shown as a big brother-type company wanting to control everything for money... Ok, we thought that ended in Tron 1... But that's ok coz Flynn disappeared in 1989, so his ideas died with him, I can accept that, even with Alan still at Encom.
So the initial skirmish was Sam hacking into Encom to distribute their new OS to the web for free. And Dillinger's son who is a member of the board (yes, I can accept that too) foiling him... Yeay! Exciting! Sets up the movie pretty good! Except that... That story line ended there never to be seen again... And my excitement of taking us into the "webbed" grid died there.
So 20 minutes into the movie I'm still trying to figure out what we were supposed to be fighting here.
So then Sam goes back to the arcade, gets sucked into the computer. Yeay!
Now we find that the fight is supposed to be between his dad and CLU. Ok, sweet! But the grid is confusing now... where is the grid in the real world? It seems that it is stuck in 1989 - isolated from Encom. There are no new games - just amped old games... So I'm understanding this as just the arcade and Flynns secret lab... Totally removed from the world! So, I'm like... How lame is THAT???
The rest is nothing but eye candy. Besides CLU, nobody had any relation to the real world, what the heck is an isomorphic program? It doesn't make sense! They're supposed to end diseases, wars, whatever... HOW exactly? They forgot to mention... So, I'm gonna have to figure this out myself... So an isomorphic program is an exact representation of something real. So, I'm guessing they are digital representation of diseases or whatever? And if so... How did they get into the grid? And what is their purpose? It seems like they are just random glitches in the system that doesn't really have reason for existing. So how exactly they can be made to cure anything nobody - not even the writers- knows. So, the only conclusion I can come up with is these isomorphs are just some willy-nilly creation from the writer's poor understanding of computer systems. Lame.
Tron was still there in a minor role - but he got re-programmed - to what we don't really know for sure - he is not an independent security program anymore he is like a Nazi soldier guy now... But then, of course he changes his programming on the fly.... Remnant programming from Tron I? Ok, I'll buy that. Sigh. I'm running out of money here...
So, the grid has a social network seems like... There's a bar and dance club. Ok. I'll buy that. A social network within a single video game arcade and secret lab? Seriously???
And so they want us to believe CLU tricked Alan/Sam into opening the portal so that he can invade the real world? Yea, they said that in the movie. I can buy that... Get out of the stupid grid that's stuck in the video arcade! So, the portal opens and instead of going through it, CLU goes chasing Sam and Flynn around. Oooohhhhkkkkaaayyyy....
And here's the clincher.... The user-less isomorphic program comes out of the portal.... And became human.
Okay it's too much. It's stupid. Very very stupid.
Your entire synopsis is seriously flawed. Let me try to recap.
The first movie sets up that programs are much like humans. They have emotions and complex personalities. It ends with two programs kissing. So lets go through your points.
I think that the first 20 minutes setup the movie nicely. The movie was longer thus more time went into the setup.
I don't think it Lame at all that the Grid is in Flynn's Arcade. I work for a company and I have some of the code that we use running at my house on lesser hardware. This is not a big deal to me.
The iso's are computer programs that popped into the Grid from nothing. Again I don't see the problem.
Flynn thinks that humans can study the DNA like code of the ISO's and learn new ways to deal with disease and stuff.
The entire first movie was just some willy-nilly creation from writer's poor understanding of computers. Your elevating it to something more is misplaced.
Clu reprogrammed Tron to be his enforcer. I don't see the problem given that Flynn reprogrammed Clu to be intelligent.
Again the first movie has programs with human emotions. They have buildings and landscapes. A dance club didn't seem like a stretch to me. Flynn was trying to make the Grid better. How could a place be perfect without a bar.
Clu needed Flynn's disk to get out. Thats why he chased them. When Sam uses the disk to get out Flynn draws Clu back in. Watch the movie closer.
So let me get this straight. You have no problem with a laser being used to transport a human into a computer. No problem with computers from the early 80's running something as complex as a human brain alongside a bunch of programs that are equally complex. For two movies now they have setup that computer programs are just like people but for the life of you, you can't accept that a program could come out of the computer? I reject your entire post.
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