Quote Originally Posted by opivy View Post
Wow....

So its not ok to torture an animal and kill it, unless it suits your needs politically?

You guys need to get some help if that's all that it takes to say things are ok. Treating anything alive in this manner is wrong - these are basic rights of anything in the world. I step on bugs here and there, and I swat bee's when they're trying to sting me but I most definitely don't condone and never will an animal, person or otherwise being sacrificed just to prove a point one way or the other. You can EASILY scientifically with past evidence prove that these animals cannot survive these conditions - through autopsies, and through other methods from private owners and corpses found in the wild.

I don't know where this "heard of" article is gathered or quoted from but the entire thing seems preposterous and goober-ed up to begin with. If these are real scientists either someone grossly exaggerated the study or these are the same people who get on youtube in lab coats and tell you that the earth is young.

*gets off soap box*
i hope you make sure that everything (and i do mean everything) you use in your day to day life has not been tested on animals.

getting "past evidence" would be hard considering that these animals stick within certain ranges in the wild. and a certain temperature range that an animal stays in dosen't always mean it cannot survive in temps that are not "optimal". studies like these happen all the time to determine treats of invaders. i have seen first hand some of these threats. if it wasn't for animal testing, we would not have any of the medications we now have.

even if the animals were not used for the experiment, they would have been killed. when the burms are found by the people who found them (skip snow ect.) they usually kill them and dissect them to see what they have been eating. so at the very least, the animals used for this study are going to preserve a hobby we are all here for.