Quote Originally Posted by RandyRemington View Post
Is “ultramel” really short for “ultramelanistic”? I guess I never thought where the name came from but "ultamelanistic" would make me think of a very dark snake not a reduced/”hypomelanistic” like snake.

Also, is it true that the snakes Ernie Wagner had years and years ago that where the original caramels (and different than what later got the name caramel) where actually ultramels but took too long to become an established morph so lost the name? Pretty trippy that ...
If I remember right, they were thought to not be genetic? I remember Vin Russo talking about it on Reptile Radio. Apparently he's had the genes running around in his collection for quite a while without realizing it.