Lesser and Piebalds crossings?

[dr del]

Hi,

Yeah, the Lessers (the ones from the platty) are het for a recessive gene that brightens up colours.


That video gives more proof that it's a recessive gene that will act on other morphs (the butter-daddy).

As for it being entirely white: it could be a supper lesser (BEL) or it could be an all white pied (in which case it's eyes may not be blue, although there is still a possibility, someone would need to confirm this with a pied over the eyes snake).

But if you bred those third generation snakes back to their parent or to a platty daddy you could get a platty daddy.

It sounds as if you're saying that Lessers from a Platty Daddy clutch do not have the hidden gene, when in reality EVERY one of the offspring from a Platty are ALL het for the hidden gene, the normals and the Lessers.

One of the nice things about this is: You can breed your own Lesser to another Lesser and happen to get a Daddy, or you can even breed your own Lesser to a seemingly normal ball and get a Daddy. I believe every Lesser is from the Daddy, and there are a lot of people with Lessers right now and a lot of normal offspring from Lessers, so you can never really know if you have one with the hidden trait or not.

Which would all make sense since it's a recessive trait (the daddy gene). But when you first said it:




It sounded as if you were claiming that none of the Lessers from a clutch sired by a daddy had the daddy gene in them, but they do, it's just het and to show it needs to be hom.

Oh I actually went back and looked at that video and it's stunning, yeah I like to jump into conversations ~_~

That could just be a fluke, not that I am hoping it was but just that it is a possibility. Then again it may not be a simple Lesser Pied, it could be a Lesser het Daddy Pied, all of which would require more investigation.

Every one of the points above is completely wrong I'm afraid.

The dilute daddy gene is not reccesive - it is either dom or co-dom.

It is an allele of the white snake complex ( as far as we know at the moment ) so the platty daddy can give either one of the genes ( dilute or lesser ) to his offspring but not both.

So if you have a lesser it absolutely does not contain the gene responsible for making daddys.

It therefore cannot make a daddy no matter how many of its offspring you breed it back to.

The white snake in Ralphs video cannot be a super lesser because only one of the parents was a lesser. It also wouldn't contain the dilute daddy gene unless Ralph made the het pied from a lesser sib fathered by a platty daddy or by breeding a platty daddy to a pied.


dr del