Quote Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
For the record, I've never done business with them but I would not only highly recommend them but do business with them in a heartbeat if they had something I wanted.

I've known of them since they started and they have always been honest and had a reputation for great animals.
I am the first to say that I have been hard on them. The other day was the first time I ever saw them admit that they sell Ian's animals. A couple years ago I was very much on the anti flipper bandwagon. I then began to realize that there needs to be some distinction. My problems these days aren't with flippers so much as with people who resell and either lie about it or sell sick snakes.

I absolutely apologize to JnJ for any harm my words caused them. They have a stellar reputation and that is really what should count.

I am officially retiring the word flipper from my vocabulary.

It's very easy to get sucked into a wolfpack mentality on message boards. Sometimes it's warranted and the scumbags get the beating they deserve. Sometimes the lines get blurred. As a buyer, take everything into consideration and do what you feel is best.