wolfy im not arguing that some are bad places, but the only supposed no kill shelter around here kills more animals than the hsus and im not talking strays or agressive animals.. the last complaint i saw was from a rescue that gave them 12 puppies which where in foster homes for over a year and they killed them all.. and this is 7 or 8 different rescues from down south that brought them up here because its easier to find homes in a well populated area as the chicago area