I assume no one here thinks this is a good enough reason to euthanize a snake?

[brainman1000]

I'm a vegan and I did suggest that anyone who ate a hamburger should be euthanized as well but oddly enough that idea didn't go over very well

lol.

I understand the live vs pk argument will be around. The thread in question actually has managed to stay reasonably civil and most people are at least listening to well thought out arguments. I was just looking for an actual way to explain to someone who doesn't own snakes why that snake can't recognize dead prey as prey and why that same snake should not be assumed to be doing poorly in captivity.

There's really no way to explain it to them and have them accept it if they have already made up their mind about it.

[JLC]

I wish we had a smaller government, then there wouldn't be committees to even entertain ideas like this.

-JonV

Then again...if the government is too small, you have one guy going, "Hey, that sounds like a good idea! Make it so!"

[llovelace]

I understand the live vs pk argument will be around. The thread in question actually has managed to stay reasonably civil and most people are at least listening to well thought out arguments. I was just looking for an actual way to explain to someone who doesn't own snakes why that snake can't recognize dead prey as prey and why that same snake should not be assumed to be doing poorly in captivity.

I'm a vegan and I did suggest that anyone who ate a hamburger should be euthanized as well but oddly enough that idea didn't go over very well

Well well well, I have a soon to be daughter in law who is a vegan (God love her), and I've learned to cook all the vegan meals, I even bake her vegan cakes.

I am a meat eater, but I will do vegan when she cooks.

I hunt deer, turkey, elk and I fish, I also eat what I kill.

Snakes hunt their prey in the wild for the most part, so I let them hunt in captivity, it's what they do.

[joshn6805]

Then again...if the government is too small, you have one guy going, "Hey, that sounds like a good idea! Make it so!"

im all for a small goverment, then when they start making absurd suggestions like this we could just kick there *** and be done with it.

[mainbutter]

I'm a vegan and I did suggest that anyone who ate a hamburger should be euthanized as well but oddly enough that idea didn't go over very well

I've often thought that vegetarians and vegans should be fair game for cannibalism lol

[llovelace]

I've often thought that vegetarians and vegans should be fair game for cannibalism lol

LOL no no I like vegans

[mainbutter]

LOL no no I like vegans

that's my point, so do I!

yum yum.

[frankykeno]

Look it's a rat forum and they are "rat people". Some of them will never get that a rodents natural role is to be prey for something else. Some of them seem to think that their rat is a small person inside some rat fur. I've been to a few rat forums and simply do not go back LOL. Not all of them are odd but enough were.

Some of them believe that we "snake people" are evil, rat hating people. They don't get that most of us respect the prey animal highly, that if we breed our own feeders we treat them very well and work to ensure that when they meet their natural end as a prey animal, they do so with the minimum of muss and fuss. Heck I spend more hours per week caring for the rat colony than I do for the snakes that eat them.

You may change a few minds over there, but there's some that won't ever be able to see past their own narrow view of things. For me, in their love of their pet is a distinct lack of respect for nature and the role of her creatures.

[Bruce Whitehead]

Very well said Jo.

Bruce

[Wh00h0069]

That is preposterous. Snakes do not eat p/k or f/t in the wild, but we expect them to do so in captivity, and if they don’t then we should kill them??? I don’t get it. I feed all of my ball pythons live prey and have no qualms about doing so. The people who think that it is alright to kill a snake because it will not eat anything other than live prey should not own snakes. Why do they not give them to responsible owners instead of killing them?