What Is This?

[Lateralus_Love]

I didn't feel like posting in the extremely uber old post that I found this in, sooo...I was just wondering, if anyone knows what the ball is in this pic? The second link brings you to the site it's from, but all the captions on those pics just say "Unusual Pastel" o.O

Something like this maybe? Picture is from Baron-Kelly Reptiles site from a visit of his to Bob Clark...

[piper]

It's a pastel.. Read the caption underneath the picture.

[Lateralus_Love]

It's a pastel.. Read the caption underneath the picture.

...but all the captions on those pics just say "Unusual Pastel" o.O

Maybe I should've clarified what I'm inquiring after..It's an "unusual pastel." Is it a mix with something else? Was it proven? The post I found that in is from 05 or 06 I believe. So I'm sure something's come of it within the past two or three years. And many of you have been here for a very long time and would most likely know the answer...sooo..What is this?

[mxrider42]

Looks like a Desert Ghost.
Trey

[Luke Martin]

It was born a normal pastel but did the weird change thing that some snakes have done where they shed and come out gray for some reason. I hadn't seen it in any morphs until I saw the pastel he had as well as a spider he had that did it as well. They're often referred to as IMGs and often change their color back but never completely. Its not a new morph or anything and that pastel and this spider were both born looking like a normal pastel and a normal spider.

Here's a pic from Daytona 04 where he brought that pastel and the spider I mentioned.

[Luke Martin]

Also I couldn't tell you exactly what causes this anomaly but I've seen it happen probably 15 times or so in the past 7 years that I've been breeding balls.

[Lateralus_Love]

Looks like a Desert Ghost.
Trey

Yea that was my first thought, but it's a little more yellowish, and it seemed like the black contrasted alot more than it does on a Desert Ghost. But then again patterns and colors vary highly.

Also I couldn't tell you exactly what causes this anomaly but I've seen it happen probably 15 times or so in the past 7 years that I've been breeding balls.

Ahhh I know what you mean. I believe there have been a couple members here on BP.net that this has happened to. The only one I really remember was a Spider changing into what seemed like an Axanthic Spider.

[Jyson]

Wierd, but kinda sorta cool. The pastel looks like a vanilla pastel, and the spider looks like its a melanistic.

[Shadera]

The way that spider has paled out on the back and the dark is splotchy reminds me so much of Crispy girl. I'm watching her closely to see what, if anything her color does but so far no changes. She saw the vet today, and everything looks normal aside from some internal parasites that will shortly be wiped out.

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=84035

[Luke Martin]

That is one theory that stress has something to do with the changing of the colors so you're snake with the parasites could be stressed enough to do the color change. Like I said it doesn't happen often but it does happen and no one really has a complete explanation on the matter....