First Lock Up!

[SGExotics]

Those pictures still dont look like locks, one tail is on the top of the other it looks, good luck though, it'll happen

Thats how almost all the "locks" i see are... do you know what they are doing when they are locked?

[starmom]

I don't know-- looks like they are trying to figure it out, but it doesn't look like a lock to me.

I think that maybe if you leave them alone they *will* figure it out. When I put my male in with a female, there is female tail wagging and they usually have a lock with their tails in the air for a while. Then they put their tails down and it is clearly belly-side tail to belly-side tail with definite tail tip curl. Does this make sense? Also, mine tend to stay locked for half a day to an entire day before they separate; even if I interrupt their privacy for a second.

I'm just trying to help since it is very disappointing to believe that eggs are on the way, and yet the incubator that is all set up and running is empty

[SGExotics]

I don't know-- looks like they are trying to figure it out, but it doesn't look like a lock to me.

I think that maybe if you leave them alone they *will* figure it out. When I put my male in with a female, there is female tail wagging and they usually have a lock with their tails in the air for a while. Then they put their tails down and it is clearly belly-side tail to belly-side tail with definite tail tip curl. Does this make sense? Also, mine tend to stay locked for half a day to an entire day before they separate; even if I interrupt their privacy for a second.

I'm just trying to help since it is very disappointing to believe that eggs are on the way, and yet the incubator that is all set up and running is empty

yea thats what happened with mine, they had their tails locked up in the air (like twisted around eachother) then they rested them on the ground, and looked just as you explained it, belly's together and somewhat of tail curl, if you look closer at the picture the tip of the males tail is starting to curl, and like a couple hours later it was curled around fully.... and yea, im leaving them alone, i just opened up the top to take a few pics...

[JasonG]

How old are you?

Seems you are very interested in showing off your collection and breeding but not so interested in hearing anyone's responses.

[SGExotics]

How old are you?

Seems you are very interested in showing off your collection and breeding but not so interested in hearing anyone's responses.

Im 15... If i wasnt interested in hearing anyone's responses why would i reply to all of them?? DUHHH lol

[TheMolenater2]

Good luck too you! Hoping for some healthy babies.

[Royal Morphz]

I don't post much on these types of thread because everyone is going to do what they feel like doing anyways. In the comment you made about what Pat said it sounded like you were being a bit disrespectful. He was just commenting on the fact that you obviously hadn't had these animals very long and you just threw them together in your "quarantine" room. Quarantine doesn't do any good if you place the 2 animals together. I mean could you not wait the 30-60 days and then put them together? Do you care more about "maybe" making little snakes and less about the snakes health you already have? Just keep in mind some of us here have been doing this since before you were born so show a little respect to your elders(as we are all wiser than you) and take the advice we give you. There has been several posts I've read where people have given you advice on your quarantine system (or the lack there of) and you just blow off the info. I'm kinda done here because its hard to want to help someone that doesn't want to help themselves

[JasonG]

Im 15... If i wasnt interested in hearing anyone's responses why would i reply to all of them?? DUHHH lol

That explains a lot.

You should read a few books, brush up on some more knowledge about bps, and learn how to be polite to others. We are all human and do make mistakes, but there is a difference between a mistake and being a bratty 15 year old kid.

[SGExotics]

I don't post much on these types of thread because everyone is going to do what they feel like doing anyways. In the comment you made about what Pat said it sounded like you were being a bit disrespectful. He was just commenting on the fact that you obviously hadn't had these animals very long and you just threw them together in your "quarantine" room. Quarantine doesn't do any good if you place the 2 animals together. I mean could you not wait the 30-60 days and then put them together? Do you care more about "maybe" making little snakes and less about the snakes health you already have? Just keep in mind some of us here have been doing this since before you were born so show a little respect to your elders(as we are all wiser than you) and take the advice we give you. There has been several posts I've read where people have given you advice on your quarantine system (or the lack there of) and you just blow off the info. I'm kinda done here because its hard to want to help someone that doesn't want to help themselves

Oh i respect him a lot! and i respect everyone here, I dont care wether they've been doing this for 100 years or a week, i show everyone the same amount of respect.

I just have to reply to what you said before:
"Quarantine doesn't do any good if you place the 2 animals together."

Well, the reasoning behind quaranting is to provent your current collection from getting any disease or mites that your new snakes could potentially have... correct? Well, if these animals had any disease or parasites (which they don't, b/c they got a vet checkup and we were told they were very healthy) don't you think they would've obtained everything by now... Someone said just opening the new box in the room of your current collection is enough to spread whatever they have to your whole collection, so shouldn't being shipped in the same small box be enough to spread what they.. But thankfully they dont have any types of disease, or infections, or parasites, thanks to our awesome vet!

[SGExotics]

That explains a lot.

You should read a few books, brush up on some more knowledge about bps, and learn how to be polite to others. We are all human and do make mistakes, but there is a difference between a mistake and being a bratty 15 year old kid.

Yep, ill do just that And ill work on my "brattiness"
Thanks for the advice,
Brandon