Spider X Normal

[irock_2006]

I have a normal female that I would love to try and breed when she reaches breeding size/weight. I love the spider balls and would love to try to make some. From what I understand I just need a male spider...correct? If anyone could help me out that would be great...I somehow reached a page on BP.net about Ball Python breeding...the link was on the care-sheet page...and after reading it I think it says that a Normal X Spider= A potential clutch of 50% Normals 50% Spiders....someone please confirm this for me?

Any help/advice is greatly appreciated!!
PS...if anyone that responds happens to breed Spiders or have a male that is about 8 months old (so he is the same approx. age as my female) I would be very interested in a purchase if the price is right...If you are in Indiana I would even be interested in meeting up when the two reach breeding age and splitting the clutch??? Do people do this??

Thanks again! Josh and Ocho

[mainbutter]

You don't need to worry too much about the snakes being the same age, as long as both are of breeding weight just so you know

[irock_2006]

Thanks...I am obviously new to the idea of breeding...and this project is definately in the future...Do you know about the whole "me just needing a male spider"...thing? Cause if so, I am going to look at purchasing him soon as I would like to say that "I raised mommy and daddy and here are the babies"...lol...sound ridiculous? Sorry

[Kryptonian]

Thanks...I am obviously new to the idea of breeding...and this project is definately in the future...Do you know about the whole "me just needing a male spider"...thing? Cause if so, I am going to look at purchasing him soon as I would like to say that "I raised mommy and daddy and here are the babies"...lol...sound ridiculous? Sorry

Yes you only need a male to get 50/50 spiders/normals. Spiders are co-doms so only one parent needs to be carrying the gene that you want to be visual on the offspring. Other co-doms are pastels, lessers, mojave, cinnamons, black pastels. Those are just a few and some of the more affordable morphs. Males are also sexually mature before females.

[mainbutter]

Oh yup all you need to make spider BP babies with your normal female is a spider male. Each egg will have a 50% chance of being spider and 50% chance of being normal.

It works equally well to have a normal male paired with a spider female. However with the price of cheaper male morphs, and the fact they mature pretty darn fast compared to females, usually people only pair morphs with female morphs.

Brushing up on genetics will help greatly. This is a good read if you haven't read it yet:
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=52847

[mainbutter]

Yes you only need a male to get 50/50 spiders/normals. Spiders are co-doms so only one parent needs to be carrying the gene that you want to be visual on the offspring. Other co-doms are pastels, lessers, mojave, cinnamons, black pastels. Those are just a few and some of the more affordable morphs. Males are also sexually mature before females.

The spider gene is a dominant gene, not co-dom.. from what I understand about the spider gene at least.

[Kryptonian]

The spider gene is a dominant gene, not co-dom.. from what I understand about the spider gene at least.

So what is the difference between co-dom and dominent, are the results not the same? a dominent bred to a normal is 50/50 offspring and a codom bred to a normal is the same.

[irock_2006]

Yes you only need a male to get 50/50 spiders/normals. Spiders are co-doms so only one parent needs to be carrying the gene that you want to be visual on the offspring. Other co-doms are pastels, lessers, mojave, cinnamons, black pastels. Those are just a few and some of the more affordable morphs. Males are also sexually mature before females.

Wow...thanks for all the replies...I wasn't aware that I could breed a pastel with a norm and have a 50/50 chance of pastels also!! Thank you so much! I love the Spiders, and really like the Pastels...and ofcourse I love my Ocho! Now that I know about the Pastels, I might stumble into a little Bumblebee Breeding Project

Thanks again to all that replied!!!!

Josh and Ocho

[irock_2006]

So what is the difference between co-dom and dominent, are the results not the same? a dominent bred to a normal is 50/50 offspring and a codom bred to a normal is the same.

According to the info on the Genetics/Breeding page on BP.net, the only difference between Co-Dom and Dom is that in Dom's there is no super form....

[OhhWatALoser]

i thought BHB had a super pinstripe, from what i read it doesn't look any different but it throws 100% pins, pin also being called a dom.