Panda Pied - have you seen this?

[Brandon Osborne]

Does anyone ever consider, color may have a visual affect on head shape? A head with pattern may look completely different than a head with only a single color. Sometimes the pattern can play tricks on the mind. Maybe all balls have a "duckbill" shape to the head, but the pattern and color make it less pronounced. I personally have never noticed the "duckbill" shape, but maybe I'm not looking at the right animals?

Brandon Osborne

[HypoPita]

Really guys? I'm generally a fan of pieds, but I'm really not seeing anything $18k amazing. It's really pretty, no doubt. Kinda looks like someone took a couple bites out of it, haha.

[andwhy6]

Really guys? I'm generally a fan of pieds, but I'm really not seeing anything $18k amazing. It's really pretty, no doubt. Kinda looks like someone took a couple bites out of it, haha.

your not paying 18k for the look.. your payin for the gene. its a RARE snake just like a piece of expensive artwork. only we paint with genetics HAHA I LOVE IT!

[Wh00h0069]

Personally, I like the pied better.

[rabernet]

I thought the super black pastels were "kink free", hence people prefering them over cinnamons? Have I been told wrong?

I was not aware of cinnamons having kink problems. Are you sure you're not confusing cinnamons with caramels?

[Emilio]

That thing is sick

[aahmn]

Does anyone ever consider, color may have a visual affect on head shape? A head with pattern may look completely different than a head with only a single color. Sometimes the pattern can play tricks on the mind. Maybe all balls have a "duckbill" shape to the head, but the pattern and color make it less pronounced. I personally have never noticed the "duckbill" shape, but maybe I'm not looking at the right animals?

Brandon Osborne

Here's a good example I found on Exotics by Nature's website showing photos from Daytona 07. If you look at the link and page down, there is a group of super cinnamon photos. A good example can be seen in the head shot with the white background where you can clearly see the concave head shape. It's also easy to compare the profile with the photo above it where the snake's head is pretty much in the same position.

http://www.ballpythonmorphs.com/07daytonaphotos.html

[Doxster]

I was not aware of cinnamons having kink problems. Are you sure you're not confusing cinnamons with caramels?

I ment the duckbill thing, I thought "kink" ment like a general physical flaw. My bad.

[MarkS]

I was not aware of cinnamons having kink problems. Are you sure you're not confusing cinnamons with caramels?

The original supers produced by Gulf Coast Reptiles had kinks as well as funky looking faces. I've heard about it as a problem from time to time, though not as often as you hear about the duck bills. I think it's more of a problem in the black pastel line.

[Brandon Osborne]

Here's a good example I found on Exotics by Nature's website showing photos from Daytona 07. If you look at the link and page down, there is a group of super cinnamon photos. A good example can be seen in the head shot with the white background where you can clearly see the concave head shape. It's also easy to compare the profile with the photo above it where the snake's head is pretty much in the same position.

http://www.ballpythonmorphs.com/07daytonaphotos.html

Thanks for the link. I still don't see much of a "duckbill" look. There is a slight indention, but not so much to make the uproar I've seen over it. I'll take 10 of them.

Brandon Osborne