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    Do I get Paid for this??? LadyOhh's Avatar
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    Is there a Morph you will never own/breed due to genetics?

    This is a conversation that is occuring in several circles, and I wanted to know from you all.

    Is there a morph out there that you would not consider ever owning/breeding due to genetic issues?

    The most obvious are the Spider wobble and the Caramel kink, but others are out there...

    Please share!
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    Re: Is there a Morph you will never own/breed due to genetics?

    Maybe not balls, but boas... the gene that makes those pop-eyes or blind ones... I couldnt, wouldnt breed for that knowing it was a very real possibilty.

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    Re: Is there a Morph you will never own/breed due to genetics?

    Nope,

    I was nervous about Spiders and the wobbles but I love bees way to much to hold me back. Plus the theory that combo spiders show fewer signs of the wobbles helped me feel better. I don't think kinking in Caramels should be that big of a deal anymore; there are many people who painstakingly outcrossed their lines to prevent against it.

    The morph I would never own is the Derma ball. Not sure what the current status on this project is but I was turned off from the first picture I saw.
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    Re: Is there a Morph you will never own/breed due to genetics?

    Hybrids.

    There is actually one hybrid I've been thinking about trying for one day, but if I did it I would never let any of them out of my collection, and would will them to someone whom I know would also never let any of them be available into the public.
    What are these mojavas I keep hearing so much about?

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    Re: Is there a Morph you will never own/breed due to genetics?

    Spiders are the only one for me. I am ok with caramels because most hatch out fine and I personally believe you can avoid most of the kinking problems by lowering incubation temps and outcrossing (I have only hatched 3 so I am not exactly an expert but all of them have been perfect to this point). If most spiders hatched out fine I would probably be ok with them but unfortunately that is not the case. I have purchased black pastels, but they are kind of on the borderline with me as far as breeding for supers. It may sound wierd, but I am actually a little more ok with small physical problems then I am with physiological problems.
    John Vandegrift

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    Re: Is there a Morph you will never own/breed due to genetics?

    Nope i want them all.... hahaha

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    Re: Is there a Morph you will never own/breed due to genetics?

    I will breed them someday, but for now im staying away from caramels. I just cant stand the though of hatching kinked animals when I know that there is a risk involved. Its not fair in my mind to the poor snakes that I might have to put down because of my own selfishness. Im waiting until the kinking is a thing of the past in them.
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    Re: Is there a Morph you will never own/breed due to genetics?

    Carmels, the kinked spine is too much for me to chance it.

    JonV

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    Re: Is there a Morph you will never own/breed due to genetics?

    I love RDR's Granite Albinos....the problem is that Ralph says that there is a genetic defect and they don't thrive (or something like that in his youtube, or journal or birthing records.....I don't remember...)

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    Re: Is there a Morph you will never own/breed due to genetics?

    For me, I am steering clear of womas. Other than that I am also "trying" to stay away from carmels, but there are carmel combos that I want like the carmel pied. Other than that, everthing else is fair game.

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