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    Question Blue Ball, red ball, realistic?

    I was looking around at some bp morphs and then it struck me. If we can produce, or discover bps that are purple, silver, champagne, white, black, yellow, grey etc. then why not a blue or red ball python. Now I am not talking about some snake that appears to have a blueISH or redISH hue to it, I am talking crimson RED or neptune BLUE. So, my question is, is this a realistic idea? Also could it be possible to combine the known morphs to theoretically produce an animal of such colors?

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    Re: Blue Ball, red ball, realistic?

    NERD has produced a morph (probably a mixture of morphs, but I don't know what) called "red spectrum" that is a pale color, vaguely red-oranges...but to my knowledge, no. The only way to get a bright red or bright blue ball with the current known and proven morphs would be to photoshop a picture of one.

    Well, maybe a super cinnamon caramel albino, but no guarantees and it wouldn't be RED. It would really depend on whether the caramel albino gene is dominant over the cinnamon's dark gene; if that's the case then theoretically the "black" or dark brown of the super cinny would result in a patternless, dark reddish-brown colored animal. See the "black" patterning areas on a caramel albino--though I'd expect that it would be darker. I'm really not sure.

    EDIT: It actually might not be a very good idea to mix a super cinny and a caramel albino, as both the super cinny and caramel albino genes are known for producing kinked/deformed babies. To me it seems that trying that is asking for a severely deformed baby. While the colors might look neat---would it be worth the deformities? Personally, I wouldn't risk it.
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    Re: Blue Ball, red ball, realistic?

    interesting theory but it's jus that.. a theory.. it cannot be done.. the mixes we have now are doen because somewhere on the snake or in the snake there are genes that produce color.. or visable scales that show color.. Now keep in mid that there are no genes for apple red and smurf blue.. however you do get some pigmentation mutates like the axanthic or the pastels on the extreme side.. but even pastels have no blue so while it is cool to think about .. I don't think it is Snakely possible.
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    Re: Blue Ball, red ball, realistic?

    Ah well that sucks, but then again any is really possible. NERD did produce the purple passions bp, which is purple, well violet, but its still very very very very purple. Maybe if one were to cross that with the axanthic it may come out blue-ish?

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    Re: Blue Ball, red ball, realistic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jyson View Post
    Ah well that sucks, but then again any is really possible. NERD did produce the purple passions bp, which is purple, well violet, but its still very very very very purple. Maybe if one were to cross that with the axanthic it may come out blue-ish?
    It WAS purple, as a hatchling. Is it still purple now?

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    Re: Blue Ball, red ball, realistic?

    anything is possible, remember 20 years ago there was only normals, and look at now. Im sure the morphs will only get better and who know what we'll see in the next 20 years.

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    Re: Blue Ball, red ball, realistic?

    I wonder if in the not too distant future it would be economical for a hobbyist to say have a chondro python or corn snake gene spliced into a ball python?

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    Re: Blue Ball, red ball, realistic?

    It WAS purple, as a hatchling. Is it still purple now?
    It was and I believe still is, google purple passions ball python on the google images. Exotics by nature.com should still have pics of it.


    Quote Originally Posted by RandyRemington View Post
    I wonder if in the not too distant future it would be economical for a hobbyist to say have a chondro python or corn snake gene spliced into a ball python?
    I saw a documentary on cloning dinosaurs a few days ago. By the sound of it, it will be much easier to manipulate the genes of fetui and in turn you could alter the anatomy, skin(whether you want scales, feathers, no scales) and problably even color. They discovered that the small number of genes that controls anatomy have genetic memory, for example a developing chicken has 15 vertebrae in its tail, but as a fully developed animal it only has 8 vert. They have already discovered ways that were rather simple to keep those vert. that are not kept throughout developement. Same goes with teeth, feathers, arms, hands; they are and will be able to eventually produce a dinosaurian-like animal from either a chicken or some other species of bird. Which in turn, will lead to some interesting things in the pet market. Think of those possibilities, you want a bp that will only get 1 foot in lenght done. Or how about a 10 foot bp, or a pink bp with purple freaking poka dots, the possibilities are as endless as one's imagination, that could one day be a reality.

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    Re: Blue Ball, red ball, realistic?

    Maybe a lav albino super cinny will be all purple once it matures?

    Or the banana champagne
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    Re: Blue Ball, red ball, realistic?

    Maybe it wouldn't be such a good idea to have a "blue ball python". =D

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