beginner morphs

[justan]

ok. I have recently started breeding leos and i love it. Its loads of fun with all the leo morphs. I have had just a normal ball for like 3 years now, she was my first snake....im getting interseted in breeding balls now...

Im a 13 year old kid so it might seem kinda, i dont know, cant find the word....anyways i dont have loads of money to spend on high end morphs but i will be making some money this summer soo....

Out of the many many morphs out there, what should i start out with? I like pastels, and they are fairly cheap, but is there any other morphs that are in the 100-250 range?

Also, i have a rack bulit for my leos. I have 1 specific qt tub that i use for hatchlings-adults. Is there a certain qt tub thats good for hatchling-adult balls? I would prefer to not have to build multiple racks but its no big deal if i do.

thanks in advance,

Justan Kellogg

[blackcrystal22]

ok. I have recently started breeding leos and i love it. Its loads of fun with all the leo morphs. I have had just a normal ball for like 3 years now, she was my first snake....im getting interseted in breeding balls now...

Im a 13 year old kid so it might seem kinda, i dont know, cant find the word....anyways i dont have loads of money to spend on high end morphs but i will be making some money this summer soo....

Out of the many many morphs out there, what should i start out with? I like pastels, and they are fairly cheap, but is there any other morphs that are in the 100-250 range?

Also, i have a rack bulit for my leos. I have 1 specific qt tub that i use for hatchlings-adults. Is there a certain qt tub thats good for hatchling-adult balls? I would prefer to not have to build multiple racks but its no big deal if i do.

thanks in advance,

Justan Kellogg

Pastels are definitely a beginners morph. I think mojaves are also on the cheaper side as well as Cinn. Pastels. Most hets. are cheaper so you could have fun with the baby lotto with those as well! I don't know the market all that well but I'm sure plenty of the breeders on here could give you some ideas on that.
Since your starting out and your so young, remember your going to have to find a female (or male depending on what your already have) and you most likely will have to raise it.. unless you want to invest more in an adult. Of course don't forget about the incubator cost and all that. :]
Don't forget the incubator and all!

[justan]

Mojaves are really cool. Ill have to take a look on some sites and see whats going on.

Incubators...whats the best brand? For my leos i have a home made one that works really well but im sure a real incubator would be better. What brand do you suggest?

[FIEND_FO_LYFE]

i havnt bred, and im not much older than you...
but id just get hets, like, mojave, maybe albinos, if you can find them cheap...
just look around...

craigslist, and stuff like that....
good luck!

[zues]

I bet you could find a pair of het albinos or ghost for less than 250. Craigslist is also a good place to pick up good deals.

[djansen]

pic up a good book like the complete ball python before you invest any money in snakes.

[andwhy6]

pastels and spiders. you could make super pastels and/or bees. you could prob get a pair of pastels and a spider for under 500$ if you got them all from the same breeder

[andwhy6]

pastels and spiders. you could make super pastels and/or bees. you could prob get a pair of pastels and a spider for under 500$ if you got them all from the same breeder

[kc261]

A couple of people have mentioned getting hets. A good way to get the ability to produce morphs without paying a lot of money up front. But only if the snake actually turns out to be the het the seller is claiming. Don't buy hets from anyone but a reputable breeder, unless the price is so good the snake is worth it even if it proves out to be not het for anything.

A couple of people have mentioned craigslist. Sometimes a place to find good deals, but often a place to find people who want $200 for their normal male because that is how much they spent on the snake & stuff at a pet store, but that doesn't make the snake or the supplies worth that price.

As far as you being a 13 yr old kid, I'm not sure what you were getting at, but some 13 yr olds take better care of their animals than many adults. Nothing wrong with someone starting out in a hobby like this when they are young.

[Bruce Whitehead]

Depends on what you like the most...

I am a sucker for most of the recessives... axanthics, ghosts (hypos), albinos, pieds, etc.

If you already have a female you can get a good priced male het. Breed him to your female, hold back all the daughters, and when they are breeding age you breed them back to dad to get homozygous recessive offspring.

If the odds gods were kind and you produced het females that is (nothing in guaranteed).

It may take you 3 years... but *meh* that is part of the fun.

Doms and co-doms you will most likely see as offspring in your first breeding season (pastels, mojaves, etc.).

So again, it depends on what you like.

Once you find a snake that you do like (esp with doms and codoms), look at lots of pics of that morph as well. Each morph has traits that make it more attractive and you want to find an example of that snake that you like.

The variance within Pastels, cinnies, mojaves, etc. is amazing!

Bruce