Just curious / (john?)

[DSGB]

john is always banned. why is this time such a big deal?

[munding]

the forum isnt here to be entertaining its here to be informative so no it wont be boring being PG. Lets not all be blind here and make it seem like Jas was an angel that got banned bc of 1 post or 1 comment. Plain and simple... were all adults... if you want to act like a child then go play on a play ground.

nobody is saying that jas is an angel.

of course you want the forum to be as entertaining as possible while still being pg! informative?? posting pictures of your pet is considered informative and not for entertainment purposes? what information do you get when you see breeders posting of their new secret morphs? that's why people create games here, to make the forum entertaining...if you want pure information, read a book. by yourself.

[DSGB]

nobody is saying that jas is an angel.

of course you want the forum to be as entertaining as possible while still being pg! informative?? posting pictures of your pet is considered informative and not for entertainment purposes? what information do you get when you see breeders posting of their new secret morphs? that's why people create games here, to make the forum entertaining...if you want pure information, read a book. by yourself.

[Jenn]

The name calling was clearly over the top. But, I have been criticized for being too sensitive about snake food. Let's face it, we kill animals all the time. I don't know enough about John's past to comment, but when some of the nicest (and funniest) people on the site chime in......

[munding]

peace man. people have different opinions on this. some people think he deserves it, some dont. this shouldnt be a big deal. peace.

[DSGB]

peace man. people have different opinions on this. some people think he deserves it, some dont. this shouldnt be a big deal. peace.

i hear that. this is a hopeless thread. i have a feeling it will lead to no good.

Its not gonna lift johns ban and I def. dont need anymore infractions so im done with this one fo sho.

[JoshJP7]

I'm with you Raymond but the stuff you mentioned is PG "entertainment"... You stated that Jas' R comments are entertaining... that they may be but when it goes against the rules who cares if its entertainment, informative, an opinion... its not allowed.

I'm banned from reptic-zone bc I made a comment without thinking about it before I posted it so I can speak from experience. To me this whole thing is black and white... you speed and get caught you get a ticket... you call people names for your own enjoyment(maybe others) you get banned... simple answer... dont speed, dont call names

[starmom]

the forum isnt here to be entertaining its here to be informative so no it wont be boring being PG. Lets not all be blind here and make it seem like Jas was an angel that got banned bc of 1 post or 1 comment. Plain and simple... were all adults... if you want to act like a child then go play on a play ground.

Josh, once again you and I disagree. It's pretty interesting that while you wrote (in another thread) that my daughter dying because insurance won't cover the astronomical cost of her cancer meds is fine, "all animals die" you said, yet you now saythat this forum is here for education?! Buddy, wake up and behave like the adult you pretend to be.

This forum is both educational and a place where herpers can get together and share and brag and tease others with their latest projects. It's a place where breeders showcase their latest clutches. This forum is far more than simply educational-- we are a community.

John is no more an angel than you~ no less of one either. I hope that you go and play somewhere because you need to lighten up and find the wonder in the world again. Understand that this world is filled with billions of people and none of them are like you.

Feeling petty and small yet?? Rather humbling, isn't it? Now, open your heart and stop dictating what this forum is and how it ought to be and who gets to live and die and how people ought to behave.

Grow up. The world is not as simple as 'black and white'.

[munding]

I'm with you Raymond but the stuff you mentioned is PG "entertainment"... You stated that Jas' R comments are entertaining... that they may be but when it goes against the rules who cares if its entertainment, informative, an opinion... its not allowed.

I'm banned from reptic-zone bc I made a comment without thinking about it before I posted it so I can speak from experience. To me this whole thing is black and white... you speed and get caught you get a ticket... you call people names for your own enjoyment(maybe others) you get banned... simple answer... dont speed, dont call names

that's true man..

[JLC]

I've merged the two threads that are essentially about the same topic. Any additional threads created about John will simply be merged into this one.

John has a long history of causing trouble and openly disrespecting the site and/or the staff. He's been banned in the past and begged to be allowed to return on the condition that he would abide by the rules we all adhere to. He was unable to hold up his end of the bargain and the cumulative affects of his inability to abide by the Site Rules has brought about his ban.

John was well aware of the rules of the site and what was expected of him. He was well aware of the consequences of his choices and actions. He recieved infractions for calling names...for cursing....and for specifically cursing directly at one of the Admins. Even with all of that in a single thread...for most members, it would not be enough for even a temporary ban, much less a permanent one.....except that John already had a history of similar aggressive and disruptive behavior. He built up to his own ban by his own actions....we did not choose that course for him.