big daddy's wholesale

[BHB]

WOW, what a wild thread! I really have no clue about most of this stuff, I'm always so busy this is the first I've heard about any of this. I was just sent the thread because our name came up. I just wanted Allen to know there is no possible way for us to clean up for the cameras. We have cameras out all the time. To do an artificial clean here would take a week. What you see is what you get. That doens't mean every cage is clean all the time, I wish it were. I just didn't want to get drug into this without having anything to do with it. I know one thing, I don't want to get on anyones bad side here.lol Brian(BHB)

[Patrick Long]

WOW, what a wild thread! I really have no clue about most of this stuff, I'm always so busy this is the first I've heard about any of this. I was just sent the thread because our name came up. I just wanted Allen to know there is no possible way for us to clean up for the cameras. We have cameras out all the time. To do an artificial clean here would take a week. What you see is what you get. That doens't mean every cage is clean all the time, I wish it were. I just didn't want to get drug into this without having anything to do with it. I know one thing, I don't want to get on anyones bad side here.lol Brian(BHB)

too late brian!!!!!


hahahah just kiddin mang

[waltah!]

WOW, what a wild thread! I really have no clue about most of this stuff, I'm always so busy this is the first I've heard about any of this. I was just sent the thread because our name came up. I just wanted Allen to know there is no possible way for us to clean up for the cameras. We have cameras out all the time. To do an artificial clean here would take a week. What you see is what you get. That doens't mean every cage is clean all the time, I wish it were. I just didn't want to get drug into this without having anything to do with it. I know one thing, I don't want to get on anyones bad side here.lol Brian(BHB)

I'd just like to get to Michigan to see for myself!
I just didnt like that your name was thrown in here by an obvious toolbag like him.

[joepythons]

I had no idea there was a blood test for IBD.

Here all this time I thought you either needed to necropsy a dead snake or take a liver biopsy from a living one.

allen, can you site any resource for this blood test?

Oh wait, let me put that in a language you'll understand.

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buckaw buckaw buc buc
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There ya go.

Wes thats one of those special southern test didnt you know.

OMG!!!!!!!


Are you people for real. Last month you were on a witchhunt and JNJ was in your sites. I love how you all act so tough behind your computers. You love to criticize and attact people in groups.

Some of you have a BP for 3 weeks and all of a sudden you're experts. This hole Big Daddy Drama is old news GET OVER IT>
If you don't like him, don't buy from him. You love to promote certain BOARD MEMBERS, "for great to buy from" yet they send out snakes with RI's Ticks Mites and other things, YET they are not FLIPPERS so it's all good.

I will not come back to this FORUM-------I have a higher standard then to listen to whining dogs all day long.

If you dont like us pointing out the bad guys who sell sick reptiles then dont let the door hit ya where god split ya

Then leave! Go out and buy from someone that will destroy your already healthy snakes, cant say we didnt try to help

Well said

WOW, what a wild thread! I really have no clue about most of this stuff, I'm always so busy this is the first I've heard about any of this. I was just sent the thread because our name came up. I just wanted Allen to know there is no possible way for us to clean up for the cameras. We have cameras out all the time. To do an artificial clean here would take a week. What you see is what you get. That doens't mean every cage is clean all the time, I wish it were. I just didn't want to get drug into this without having anything to do with it. I know one thing, I don't want to get on anyones bad side here.lol Brian(BHB)

Brian he is just trying to move the heat away from him .It has happened numerous times because Allen will never openly admit his collection has or had IBD

[Blue Apple Herps]

It's too bad, because that lavender albino bp is neon and looks sweet!

[rabernet]

You love to promote certain BOARD MEMBERS, "for great to buy from" yet they send out snakes with RI's Ticks Mites and other things, YET they are not FLIPPERS so it's all good.

I will not come back to this FORUM-------I have a higher standard then to listen to whining dogs all day long.

Who might that be? Anyone who has sent out ticks and mites have been brought up in this section that I'm personally aware of. Care to back up your accusation?

[joepythons]

It's too bad, because that lavender albino bp is neon and looks sweet!

Maybe that the IBD coming out .I would NEVER buy nor take for free anything that came from him as its not worth the gamble.We have way to many others to buy or trade with

[joepythons]

Who might that be? Anyone who has sent out ticks and mites have been brought up in this section that I'm personally aware of. Care to back up your accusation?

Robin i think he is just blowing stale air .

[Freakie_frog]

Who might that be? Anyone who has sent out ticks and mites have been brought up in this section that I'm personally aware of. Care to back up your accusation?

Agreed I like to hear this also.

[CeraDigital]

I don't sit by my computer all day like some. I have been busy today. I built new roads and new fields on my hunting land today and then managed to sell 16 snakes this evening. Let's start here.
I did not avoid this thread. I have stated all the time that I am a computer idiot. So when the thread got moved I could not access it and did not know who or how too. Thanks for the help getting it strait.
Secondly There was only one snake that had IBD. And I am still convienced the snake did not come from me. Check The dates on when the kid bought the snake and when the snake died. The snakes I sold at the philly show where newborns right out of their first shed. Which at most should have made the snake 4-5 weeks old. But the necropsy states the snake is a 6 month old snake. I even called the vet on the paperwork and he verified the snake was much older than 4-5 weeks. I had tests done on one of the snakes I carried to the show and had blood drawn from my boas. All tests were negative. I have said before, I deliver to The University they charge a flat 100.00 for lab results. The doctor does things for me through a student work schedule. It gives the students hands on and I might add that AU is 2nd in the country in their veteranary teachings. Anyway I do not get anything in writing ever... Also you are mistaken about being able to find IBD in bloodwork. Please feel free to contact Pete Kahl personally to verify this statement as well. My proof to you is IBD runs it's full course in Pythons (Balls, Burmese, Retics,ETC) in 28 days tops. I am still in business and thriving. I have over 400 python eggs in the incubator at present and expect to have over 1100 by years end. That's just at this facility, Not including the various breeder loans I have going. There is no way that poorly cared for or sick snakes could be productive and breed successfully year after year. Next comes the selloff or dieoff, Neither is true. I buy out other breeders all the time. This year alone I bought 4 other breeders out. I keep the snakes I want and sell the rest. I am sure you are making reference to the sub-adult and adult snakes that I sold about the time this accusation was posted. If I was selling sick and infected snakes, We would have a major epidemic!!! You need to realize just how many snakes I sell in a year and how many different customers that includes. Not tooting my horn but get REAL! Finally I have added a new facility and a trailer to my business, But I still have the same old building that I started in. Funny how with all my legal problems and diseases and sewer condictions (just quoting others) I continue to grow and breed successfully year after year.
Next topic the lavender albino fader labby burmese. I bought the lavender albinos from over seas. I bought the faders and albino fader from here in the US. This is the first ever produced and say what you want but the guy who put the deal together for me on the lavenders bought 2.1 from me already and flew in and hand picked his. The fader gene is unknown and everyone who responded to the add was told that. I also have a fader to fader breeding in the incubator now and am waiting to see the results of that. I was not expecting to be given props for the snakes just like last season when I was the first to produce the stingerblast BP. Maybe this season will be different though, I have a clutch with a chance for a pastel lesser ghost 5 eggs and another clutch with a graziani line bee breed to an enchi 8 eggs in this one. Only time will tell! For now I will keep doing what I do and you keep doing what you do.
Oh one last thing, I went and took pics with out staging anything. I was not trying to give you a false impression of my facility. And if you think BHB does not go through their containers prior to filming to make sure everything is picture perfect before rolling tape, YOU ARE SILLY!
Allen Belcher 706-615-4772

Just one thought on this. How do you have a Fader to Fader project going, when all the known Faders are dead?

As for the Lavendars; it would have been brought to more than your attention when they were discovered. Gulf Coast, Bob Clark, BHB, NERD, or Jay Vella would have had their hands on them long before you had. As well as that, Bob, and Jay were both unaware of a Lavendar being in existence...hmmm. Seems they only knew about the T- and T+ being found, with the T+ still waiting to be proven.....

OMG!!!!!!!


Are you people for real. Last month you were on a witchhunt and JNJ was in your sites. I love how you all act so tough behind your computers. You love to criticize and attact people in groups.

Some of you have a BP for 3 weeks and all of a sudden you're experts. This hole Big Daddy Drama is old news GET OVER IT>
If you don't like him, don't buy from him. You love to promote certain BOARD MEMBERS, "for great to buy from" yet they send out snakes with RI's Ticks Mites and other things, YET they are not FLIPPERS so it's all good.

I will not come back to this FORUM-------I have a higher standard then to listen to whining dogs all day long.

What about me? I've been in this hobby for over a decade, and specialized in giants. I've owned quite a few species, and bred them. As well as that, I'm not a favored member here, and have went heads up with quite a few members. I'm still in here asking questions. Why? Because I see something that isn't right, and something fishy going on. I call it as I see it.

As for the tough guy comment behind a computer. I'd act just as "tough" in person.....