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    Re: IBD?? opinions needed plz help

    I have one spider, and he does not wobble or spin, but I have heard of others that do. You asked if you should take him to the vet. If it is just the spider wobble, then I would not take him to the vet, because the vet is most likely not going to know what is going on with him, and diagnose your snake with IBD. From what I have heard most vets diagnose snakes with any neurological problems with IBD, even though most do not have IBD. If this were IBD, your snake would pass away very quickly, so most likely it is not IBD. Hope this helps.

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    Re: IBD?? opinions needed plz help

    It's a Spider, they all do it.

    Both of mine do it to a certain degree, the female much less than the male. Her head only tilts to the side(other than her neck being half as short as it should be, her underbite, and her tongue that doesn't stick out any further than the 2 forks) and she doesn't overreact to stimuli. The male tilts a bit but doesn't spin while in his tub. He does overreact to stimuli and that can cause some mild spinning. They both do everything normally; eat, drink, shed, defecate/urinate, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr del View Post

    I know a lot of the pictures and video's no longer work but I did save one of the videos showing his looping behaviour.


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    Thank you. I was able to see the video, none of the pictures but that's ok! Thanks again!

    I'm confident in everyone's opinions that he is ok and just has bad 'wobbles'; but I will still watch him carefully everyday and make sure everything else is going smoothly.
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    Re: IBD?? opinions needed plz help

    You've had him since February. Has he been around any other snakes since then? If not and if it were IBD, he'd be dead now.

    He's got an extreme head wobble. I believe that the degree of "wobbleness" passed on to offspring is variable. A non-wobbler can throw a "train-wreck" wobbler and a bad wobbler can throw non-wobblers - although there are some believe that ALL spiders spin to some degree:

    http://forum.8ballpythons.com/blog/?p=5

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    Re: IBD?? opinions needed plz help

    When purchasing a spider one the first questions should be
    "Is he a spinner or wobbler?"

    You my friend have a spinner, he will be fine, like others have said if it was IBD he woulda been pushing up daisies a while ago.

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    Re: IBD?? opinions needed plz help

    Quote Originally Posted by kojack8389 View Post
    Thank you. I was able to see the video, none of the pictures but that's ok! Thanks again!

    I'm confident in everyone's opinions that he is ok and just has bad 'wobbles'; but I will still watch him carefully everyday and make sure everything else is going smoothly.
    Hi,

    Actually, for clarity, I should point out I was talking about a different video provided by lillyorchid of loopy (on a tabletop by the looks of it) not the one posted by nightlad.


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    Re: IBD?? opinions needed plz help

    Quote Originally Posted by West Coast Jungle View Post
    When purchasing a spider one the first questions should be
    "Is he a spinner or wobbler?"

    You my friend have a spinner, he will be fine, like others have said if it was IBD he woulda been pushing up daisies a while ago.
    He was my first snake, plus I didn't even purchase him my bf did for my birthday and I don't think he knew to ask either. but now I do!
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    Re: IBD?? opinions needed plz help

    Quote Originally Posted by kojack8389 View Post
    He was my first snake, plus I didn't even purchase him my bf did for my birthday and I don't think he knew to ask either. but now I do!
    He looks pretty handsome! Nice present

    I have heard a theory that they do less spinning in lower light conditions as opposed to brighter. I dont know how true that is but they dont need bright lighting anyway so it couldn't hurt to see if it's true. it's just something I read and have no idea if it's true or someones isolated experience.

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