New spider wobbles ALOT!

[recycling goddess]

personally i believe it's the responsibility of any GOOD and TRUSTED breeder to tell a potential customer that the spider they are interested in buying wobbles. why even leave that as a little 'surprise' when they open the box?

i'm still waiting for my spider from adam and honestly, if she started wobbling while she was with him, i'd expect him to tell me. (and i know he would!!!)

hence, the "buy from a trusted breeder" everyone discusses so often.

[RandyRemington]

Sure the perfect buyer should find out about the wobble in spiders before buying and ask about the spider they are considering buying and wobbling. But I'd still consider any seller who doesn't disclose wobbling to be less than ideal also.

Selectively breeding for non spinning spiders assumes that the difference between spiders that spin and those that don't (ever, yet, or much depending on who you talk to) is genetic. Most things are genetic so it's certainly worth a try. But given the reports of spinning skipping generations and that it hasn’t been breed out yet this far into the cb spider production I'm worried that it might be part of the mutation its self and not be possible to breed out.

Sounds like you just got this spider. How old/big is it? If you do keep it, let us know how it does a few months down the road. If the difference between spinning and non spinning spiders turns out to be environmental then the change of environment to your rack might make the spinning stop.

[starmom]

personally i believe it's the responsibility of any GOOD and TRUSTED breeder to tell a potential customer that the spider they are interested in buying wobbles. why even leave that as a little 'surprise' when they open the box?

i'm still waiting for my spider from adam and honestly, if she started wobbling while she was with him, i'd expect him to tell me. (and i know he would!!!)

hence, the "buy from a trusted breeder" everyone discusses so often.

Hey Aleesha~ I totally agree!!! I got my '06 spider from Adam and he was totally upfront with the history of spider 'spinning' and also of the spider he was selling me; I have yet to see her spin, wobble, or do anything that would make me decide against breeding her. Going through a terrific breeder is the key when buying a spider morph.

[Big Gunns]

Is there any forum on the internet that this topic hasn't been debated to death?

The wobble in Spiders is genetic. It doesn't matter if you have a Spider that wobbles or not, you're going to produce one that does. Some won't do it for years, and some will do it often. 99% of Spiders have shown to live and do fine with this problem.


He may wobble now, but he may not in a week. Someone else may have one that they never saw wobble, then it will wobble right when they want to breed it. You never know with Spiders, it just something you have to live with if you want to breed them.

[jdmls88]

It's not life threatening but why would you want to pass that on to progeny? IMO it is always best to breed the best of the best and for me that translates into breeding spiders that have the very least amount of wobble possible.
I have an '06 spider from Adam at 8Ball and she has never wobbled once that I have ever seen. When she strikes her prey, she is right on target. I will breed her since I feel that she represents good health in the spider morph.

do we know that the amount of wobble can be passed on?

[pythontricker]

Alright with what some of you said I'm feeling a lot better. Personally I believe that its due to stress. He has been moved around and has been really worked and I shouldn't have been holding him so early anyways. Plus, when he is in the cage he doesn't wobble and he doesn't even really spin he just shakes his head a little. Its noticeable, but subtle. I'm going to give him a break and see how things go after a couple of days of NO handling and after he eats. If wobbling isn't life threatening and it will be inherited to offspring to certain degrees (not to noticeable, semi noticeable, really noticeable etc...) Then i don't see what the big damn deal is. + I think its cute how he does it and he is a great snake. None the less I'm going to breed him and he and Ali are going to produce spider het albino and his offspring will produce spider albino's.
P.S. (I like the wobble, I was just curious to see all the different opinions)