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[Gecko Den]

me too well i figure with my tax return check i might look for a 100% het hypo female to breed to him and then find a het pied to breed to him to try and just prove to see if he has the genes before i got for the big shabang

edit: hes got alot of "markers" and white spot though his patterning when i can get better pics i will show them

Did you ever get a girlfriend for your Het. Albino male?

[Monty]

my bad about the pics i have them on my camera but im having problems with my card reader

[JASBALLS]

my bad about the pics i have them on my camera but im having problems with my card reader

I thought they were on your buddys slr?

[Monty]

unfortunantly no i have not found a girl friend for the het albino male yet.

[Gecko Den]

unfortunantly no i have not found a girl friend for the het albino male yet.

OK, please don't take this wrong, but here's some advice. You currently have a 100% Het Albino male. Your new snake is a possible Het Hypo and even less possible Het pied. Say you buy a Het Hypo female like you mentioned, take the time to raise her up, then breed your possible Het Hypo to her resulting in all normal looking snakes. You have no way of knowing if you just missed on the Het X Het odds or if your boy simply isn't Het for Hypo. Now you have to hold back all the females, raise them up and breed them back to the male to try and prove him out. Meanwhile if he is a normal you are going to wind up with even more possible Hets with no way of knowing whats Het and what isn't. In the end you could wind up with 2 or 3 racks full of possible Hets pulling your hair out.
What would probably be a better idea is to build on the fact that you have a 100% Het Albino male, invest in a 100% Het Albino female instead of the 100% Het Hypo female you mentioned. Raise her up to breed to the Het Albino male, hope to get an albino or three out of that pair then trade, or sell an Albino and buy a visual Hypo girl if you are still intent on proving out your possible Het. Hypo male. At least then you would be sure that the offspring would at a minimum be all 100% Het hypos. That at least lessens the pain and frustration if your boy proves to be just a normal. If I lost you at all in my ramblings let me know and I'll try and clear it up for you.

[JASBALLS]

OK, please don't take this wrong, but here's some advice. You currently have a 100% Het Albino male. Your new snake is a possible Het Hypo and even less possible Het pied. Say you buy a Het Hypo female like you mentioned, take the time to raise her up, then breed your possible Het Hypo to her resulting in all normal looking snakes. You have no way of knowing if you just missed on the Het X Het odds or if your boy simply isn't Het for Hypo. Now you have to hold back all the females, raise them up and breed them back to the male to try and prove him out. Meanwhile if he is a normal you are going to wind up with even more possible Hets with no way of knowing whats Het and what isn't. In the end you could wind up with 2 or 3 racks full of possible Hets pulling your hair out.
What would probably be a better idea is to build on the fact that you have a 100% Het Albino male, invest in a 100% Het Albino female instead of the 100% Het Hypo female you mentioned. Raise her up to breed to the Het Albino male, hope to get an albino or three out of that pair then trade, or sell an Albino and buy a visual Hypo girl if you are still intent on proving out your possible Het. Hypo male. At least then you would be sure that the offspring would at a minimum be all 100% Het hypos. That at least lessens the pain and frustration if your boy proves to be just a normal. If I lost you at all in my ramblings let me know and I'll try and clear it up for you.

There wouldnt be any problems because he knows all of the het markers! He would just hold those back and BAM! Hypos and pieds!

[Gecko Den]

There wouldnt be any problems because he knows all of the het markers! He would just hold those back and BAM! Hypos and pieds!

LOL, John now you're just trying to push my buttons. You know as well as I do that "Het Markers" are in no way 100% accurate. I have several Het Albinos that have "Het Pied Markers" that I know damn well have no pied in them....

[Monty]

i didnt say i knew all the markers i just said i know from what ive seen and what breeders at the reptile shows have told me to look for. and you know what so what if i hit or miss with the het hypo het pied im all about the project and the animals i dont care if i don't get any visuals its all about the experience. i'm not going to go into a buisness for the money im doing it for the joy and pleasure of working with an animal i have been in love with since i was 8 and finally over the past 3 years cracked my mom of her fear of snakes. i'm not sayin im an expert never once did. and about the het albino project. i do not currently have a girl friend for him for the fact that i havent seen any albino het females that have caught my eye and yes i am going to go though the whole het thing with the albino too i dont care if i dont get visuals right away like i said i want to do it for the experiance my pleasure and to learn more and help people learn. if i make money along the way good for me. but all the money i put into these guy i have and all the work i put into them i don't need you here bashing me specially since im excited for my present first off and second off you'll see exactly what im talking about when i get the pics on here tomorrow and that a promise.

so if you have nothing nice to say or any encouragement i'd say dont say anything at all.

thank you
and im dont with my rant

p.s. dont knock newbies hopes out of the sky you dont know the care and passion i have for these animals

[Gecko Den]

i didnt say i knew all the markers i just said i know from what ive seen and what breeders at the reptile shows have told me to look for. and you know what so what if i hit or miss with the het hypo het pied im all about the project and the animals i dont care if i don't get any visuals its all about the experience. i'm not going to go into a buisness for the money im doing it for the joy and pleasure of working with an animal i have been in love with since i was 8 and finally over the past 3 years cracked my mom of her fear of snakes. i'm not sayin im an expert never once did. and about the het albino project. i do not currently have a girl friend for him for the fact that i havent seen any albino het females that have caught my eye and yes i am going to go though the whole het thing with the albino too i dont care if i dont get visuals right away like i said i want to do it for the experiance my pleasure and to learn more and help people learn. if i make money along the way good for me. but all the money i put into these guy i have and all the work i put into them i don't need you here bashing me specially since im excited for my present first off and second off you'll see exactly what im talking about when i get the pics on here tomorrow and that a promise.

so if you have nothing nice to say or any encouragement i'd say dont say anything at all.

thank you
and im dont with my rant

p.s. dont knock newbies hopes out of the sky you dont know the care and passion i have for these animals

Not sure where you are getting that I was "knocking a newbies hopes out of the sky"?. All I did was try to explain what to expect and offering up some advice; read my post again I don't see where I was "bashing" you. Whatever though, best of luck to you in your breeding adventures.

[JASBALLS]

i didnt say i knew all the markers i just said i know from what ive seen and what breeders at the reptile shows have told me to look for. and you know what so what if i hit or miss with the het hypo het pied im all about the project and the animals i dont care if i don't get any visuals its all about the experience. i'm not going to go into a buisness for the money im doing it for the joy and pleasure of working with an animal i have been in love with since i was 8 and finally over the past 3 years cracked my mom of her fear of snakes. i'm not sayin im an expert never once did. and about the het albino project. i do not currently have a girl friend for him for the fact that i havent seen any albino het females that have caught my eye and yes i am going to go though the whole het thing with the albino too i dont care if i dont get visuals right away like i said i want to do it for the experiance my pleasure and to learn more and help people learn. if i make money along the way good for me. but all the money i put into these guy i have and all the work i put into them i don't need you here bashing me specially since im excited for my present first off and second off you'll see exactly what im talking about when i get the pics on here tomorrow and that a promise.

so if you have nothing nice to say or any encouragement i'd say dont say anything at all.

thank you
and im dont with my rant

p.s. dont knock newbies hopes out of the sky you dont know the care and passion i have for these animals

Nice post!