Kiss your hobby goodbye!!!! USFW Proposed ban!!!!

[Ophiuchus]

Just thought of a quick solution to the problem....just change all the taxonomic names of these species and do away with Python, Boa, and Eunectes!

[pythontricker]

heres my letter. what do i do with it?To Whom it may concern:

I am a young man beginning a career in breeding and selling Ball Pythons. Recently I have invested a large sum of money in the purchase of several Ball Pythons in order to breed and sell them nation wide. This has been a passion of mine for some time, and I seek to pursue a career in herpetology. If this ban is passed, there will be a major problem in the economics of the herping community. With this ban imposed many of the large national breeders who ship world wide will be forced to either release their snakes into the wild (which is what you do not want) or sell to the black market. Take into consideration all of the supplies sold by major retailers, such as Petco, and breeders all over the US. These supplies will no longer be sold and major tax dollars will decrease. In addition, the Ball Python that only grows up to 5 ft in length is a major stride in genetics. If you were to ban the selling of these beautiful snakes it would also be a major loss in the study of genetics. This is a snake that has been bred by many major breeders such as Adam Wysoki, Bob Clark, and many more to find many different color mutations and morphs using their knowledge of genetics.

Now I would like to apologize for those who have been irresponsible and releasing their large Burmese Pythons into the everglades. I understand they have been eating animals who are essential to that particular eco-system. This is a major problem for Florida as a whole. Florida is the only state in the US which it is possible for such an animal to survive, so it is unnecessary to impose this ban nation wide. It is not needed for it to be enforced in Florida. I feel that a simple solution is in order. For example, I believe that when a person goes to buy a larger snake such as a Burmese or Reticulated python, that the person purchasing the snake should fill out a simple husbandry care sheet, that asks questions like "how large will the snake get" or "what does tis snake need to eat". So I only ask that you please reconsider this decision and give the reptile community another chance to shape up and fly rite.
-Quinton Mendoza

do some edditing etc. what ever. thanks.

[Chuck]

It is just my suggestion to leave anything about your hobby or how much money your snakes cost out. These letters are going to people who don't give a crap about our hobby and breeding and anything else we all do. I posted a letter a little further back in the thread written by a guy I have bought a few snakes from. It covers the sticking points the USFW will be looking at in dealing with this issue. I am sorry to bust on your letter, but I am just trying to help.


Chuck

[NightLad]

I believe it is vital to present ones self as a legitimate business owner, who pays taxes and thus supports the economy through his business.

It is one thing to ban a hobby, it is another to attack the livelihoods of tax-paying Americans. Reinforce this fact (a fact those proposing the ban want to gloss over) and you might just open some eyes.

My 2 cents.

[Snakeman]

you know im so tempted to write them a "threatening" letter, but i think i'll cool my jets down first before thinking of what to write(it's how i am).

quick question though.....let's say the this new ban passes and i want to move out of state with my snakes....would i be able to bring them along or would i not be able to?

and i keep seeing people that are worried about them finding out about the electricity knowing that they have heat sources...what would they do if they found out you were keeping snakes like myself? would they take them away? fine me?

[greenmonkey51]

They're not banning keeping the snakes just traveling between states and imports. If you had to move states it wouldn't be that hard just to take them you. USFW would be more worried about breeders shipping out hundred of snakes, than a single family moving their pets. I've seen what USFW has done to dealers and it ain't pretty.

[ravenspirit360]

I really really hope we can beat this, this makes me very sad

[neilgolli]

Just a quick updated. I have not been able to get ahold of Erin as of yet with federal fish and wildlife, I'll try again today and update the boards if I do. I have talked with florida and they are going to get me numbers today or tomorrow on the total number of class 3 permits in the state plus a few other answers to a few questions....

[lillyorchid]

They're not banning keeping the snakes just traveling between states and imports. If you had to move states it wouldn't be that hard just to take them you. USFW would be more worried about breeders shipping out hundred of snakes, than a single family moving their pets. I've seen what USFW has done to dealers and it ain't pretty.

In many states certian types and lengh of snakes are banned/illegal to have. I know here in Baltimore(city) MD we have a ban on any snake that is over 5 feet. If this passes I'd hate to see what their next move is going to be, because it probably will be banning the keeping of snakes all together. Like someone said earlier on this thread, give them an inch -- they will take a mile. We really need to fight hard to get this not to pass!

[Eddie_Z]

I have spoken my piece in support of my reptile family!