royals breeding

[Ray]

Im new to breeding royals.If you put a male in with a female and he locks up with her once, does that mean he is going to be the father of the babies.I was wondering if I put a different male in with the same female and he locks up with her from now on untill breeding is over will he be the father of the babies.If anyone knows could they let me know please.All the best.

[muddoc]

If, both males copulated with the female, than it is possible to have a clutch off eggs that were sired by both males. With that said, each egg will only be fathered by one male, but it is possible to have offspring from both fathers in the clutch.

A little explanation/clarification: If you were to breed a Spider male to a Normal female one time (and they did copulate) and then you bred a Pastel male to the same mother, and they copulated, then you could have a clutch that contained both Pastel and Spider offspring. However, you will never hatch a BumbleBee by attempting this breeding technique.

I did have this happen to me this year. I had a clutch of eggs hatch from my Mojave bred to a Normal female. To my surprise, a Pastel crawled out of an egg as well. Upon reviewing my breeding card for that girl, I noticed that my Pastel male had bred her very early in the season one time, followed by more than 4 copulations by my Mojave. I had put the Pastel in there to help "jump start" the follicular growth in that girl, since my Mojave was still young and learning the ropes.

One last note: If you plan on attempting this, make sure you do not breed any type of recessive trait to a mother if you are going to attempt multiple fathers (unless you are not planning on selling any normal appearing offspring), as the ture genetics of the Normals would be unknown until extensive breeding could be done.

I hope that was as clear as mud, LOL,

[Ray]

Thanks for the info.I was useing the older normal male to try jump start things like you said.I have an albino male that is takeing his time getting started.I would rather the younger albino male to do the breedings.The older normal male locked once with a possible het albino female.I have a definate het female so I will hold her untill the albino male is doing the bizz.Thanks again.

[Alice]

Good advice as usual Tim! I also had a mojave and pastel from the same clutch this year as well as a black pastel and pastel. I ran more that 1 co-dom male through the normal females to try to get multiple morphs from the same clutch.

Tim's advice about not mixing co-doms and recessives with the same female is very wise. The only time this would be OK is if you only use a super and a recessive with a normal. Any normal looking snakes would be hets for the recessive trait since the super would produce all morphs of his genetics (e.g. all pastels from a super pastel, all mojaves from a BEL mojave, all butters from a BEL butter, etc.) You just need to be careful; some supers, e.g., a black eyed lucy, would produce fires and some low grade fires could be mistaken for a normal if you're not real experienced telling them apart.