Heating/Thermostat Question

[bg1906]

Hello All.

I plan on purchasing an Animal Plastics T3 enclosure in a few weeks. Adam Wysocki, suggested the Belly Heat Option along with a Pro-Products Radiant Heat Panel (RHP). I'm torn between getting a Herpstat or a Helix DBS-1000. However, I was wondering if I get both the RHP and Belly Heat, could I control both sources with 1 thermostat or would I need multiple thermostats?

Thanks in advance.

Bryce

[Adam_Wysocki]

Bryce,

The heat panel will be enough. I suggested the belly heat option when you asked about the animal plastics cage and the radiant heat panel when we talked about heating cages ... I never put the two together in my head. Sometimes I lose track of whos doing what setup with all the emails I get.

Ideally, if you had the money to spend, you could use the RHP on a t-stat for your hot spot (92-94) and the belly heat on a second t-stat for your ambients (82-84) .... but, unless your house gets very very cold in the winter, the RHP should be enough.

Sorry for the confusion.

-adam

[bg1906]

Bryce,

The heat panel will be enough. I suggested the belly heat option when you asked about the animal plastics cage and the radiant heat panel when we talked about heating cages ... I never put the two together in my head. Sometimes I lose track of whos doing what setup with all the emails I get.

Ideally, if you had the money to spend, you could use the RHP on a t-stat for your hot spot (92-94) and the belly heat on a second t-stat for your ambients (82-84) .... but, unless your house gets very very cold in the winter, the RHP should be enough.

Sorry for the confusion.

-adam

I'll spend what I need. So that's not a problem within reason. I just want to do right! I had it mixed up, I thought the RHP would be for ambients throughout the enclosure and the belly heat for hot spot. I just moved into my new house so I don't know the temps. I moved in in April. The heat rises and upstairs (where i plan to keep the snake) was always much warmer than downstairs when we moved in. Is having both good or is it overkill and you could go with 1 or the other? The belly heat can also be built into the cage at AP for $45 without me having to order a RHP and installing it, or is having the RHP that much better? I just want to do what's best for the snake. It that's both with 2 t-stats then that's what I'll do, if it's one or the other, then I'll do that as well.

I noticed Herpstat II had 2 probes on it. Could that control both the RHP and the Belly Heat?

[Adam_Wysocki]

If it were me, I'd do the RHP sized by Pro-Products and a Helix DBS-1000.

I've done plastic cages with heat tape underneath, but those were in rooms that were heated to 80 degrees year round. I have no practical experience with AP cages, belly heat, and normal household temps.

I don't know a thing about the herpstat, Matt would be a better resource for those questions.

-adam

[bg1906]

If it were me, I'd do the RHP sized by Pro-Products and a Helix DBS-1000.

I've done plastic cages with heat tape underneath, but those were in rooms that were heated to 80 degrees year round. I have no practical experience with AP cages, belly heat, and normal household temps.

I don't know a thing about the herpstat, Matt would be a better resource for those questions.

-adam

Ok so to make sure I place the order correctly, I'd get:

1. Animal Plastics T3 with the Solid Top, without the Belly Heat Option.
2. Radiant Heat Panel sized by Pro-Products
3. T-Stat of choice either Helix or Herpstat

Correct?

Bryce

[Adam_Wysocki]

That's what I would do, but it might be a good idea to get some other opinions before you put that order in. I've been keeping my ball pythons in rack systems in a climate controlled environment for a LONG time .... my advice for keeping a ball as a household pet might be a little dated

-adam

[bg1906]

That's what I would do, but it might be a good idea to get some other opinions before you put that order in. I've been keeping my ball pythons in rack systems in a climate controlled environment for a LONG time .... my advice for keeping a ball as a household pet might be a little dated

-adam

Ok, will do.

[bg1906]

Any other opinions? Especially from Animal Plastic owners.

[kavmon]

i don't have an ap cage but i've used visions,barrs,jungle habitats and glass tanks before racks. i'd make sure the guy at pro products (bob pound) i think, knows the cage size and what temps you want at both ends and he will size the panel correctly. i use both helix and herpstat, i had a minor problem with one herp stat so my vote would go to helix. i want to say that the problem was corrected promptly and professional by dion that makes herpstats.


vaughn

[jotay]

I have a AP T-11. I have never used Heat Panels but I do know just the belly heat option is not enough in my cage in my house to keep the temps correct.
I got mine w/ the two 8.5" cutouts and I have two lamps w/ 100watt red bulbs this w/ the belly heat keep my temps prefect.
I have my lights on ESU T-Stats and the belly heat I have on a Helix dbs1000 which I love and think is awesome.
My house stays about 78-80 in winter and 70-75 in summer and belly heat is not enough winter or summer.
Hope this helps.
I have had my ap set up for over a year now.