One more try..... Help?

[Kerimac]

She is a pastel bamboo (this is what she was listed as). Any ideas on what other genes may be involved? She was born this way so it isn't the substrate making her belly this color, nor is she going into shed. She was just an oddball in the clutch. Thank you in advance!

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[Bogertophis]

I'm no good at BP genetics, but she was hatched, not born...

[Kerimac]

Hahahahahahaha. I love it! Yes..... Hatched. I'm definitely a newbie. Funny story, I had dogs all my life and the first ultrasound (that looked like an actual baby) of my first child moving around... Yep... I said "Look! It's kicking it's back legs!" uh huh.... That was me.

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[MamaRhea]

Oh my goodness!! I haven't seen a belly like that! If I were you I'd breed her to see if that's genetic or just a one-off. The peachy belly is adorable!

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[AbsoluteApril]

I remember Deborah asked you in the other thread what bedding it was kept on but I believe you said unknown since it was recently turned into the pet shop.
Sometimes reptisand can stain bellies like that. I hope it wasn't kept on sand but that was my first thought.

Just saw you said it was born that way. weird.

[Bogertophis]

I've never seen this in a BP, so I truly HOPE it's genetic, but other than staining from substrate, my brain leans over to septicemia or burns...really hoping it's neither.

It's a little quieter on this forum lately, ppl have a lot on their minds (like eating & paying bills, maybe) but it worries me that among all our knowledgeable members
-many of whom breed BPs- no one has seen this phenomenon before. I'm not saying it couldn't be something genetic, but... I'd keep all options open if I were you.

(Ask yourself WHY if it's so pretty & something rare was it "turned in to a pet shop"? Maybe a vet suggested expensive treatments & the owner decided to bail out...)

I'm not trying to ruin your day...I HOPE I'm wrong & you just came home with a million-dollar genetic anomaly, but think about the odds...

How long have you had this snake? Is she eating? Behavior normal? If she's not your only snake, I hope she is quarantined! Stool ok?

[Kerimac]

I should have been more clear. I went to the reptile shop for food for my lil normal and while I was there, I mentioned wanting to get a bamboo female to breed my boy to in the future. The owner said hang on and let me show you something that I have in the back. He brought out this beautiful snake but said she isn't for sale. They ordered a pastel bamboo from their breeder and this is what they got. The shop owner's girlfriend immediately called dibs and they put it in the quarentine area. She is taking it home this week. She said she was so sorry but she just had to have her. Lol. BUT....... she has agreed to let me stud my little guy out to her when they are big enough. I will get first pick from the clutch. I am just hoping for one like her. She indeed came out this way and I hope, as well that she is healthy and that it is not a health problem. I have since found out that the breeder, as well as the reptile shop have both had her on paper towels. I hope this helps. I have just been looking everywhere for another one that has this coloration and have not seen one. I'm sorry if I seemed shallow about not hearing from anyone, as I know this is a hard time for so many. That was never my intention.

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[Bogertophis]

No apologies needed. Anyway, keeping that snake on paper towels is a good idea. Not sure but I think snakes can also be allergic to things like substrates. I hope you
manage to make pink bamboo snakes in the future, or whatever...but I'm just not convinced it's anything genetic. I've kept many snakes for literally decades, including
some BPs, but again, BP morphs aren't my thing at all...just giving you my opinion for what it's worth, & only time will tell. The skeptic in me also says that
some breeders aren't always truthful about whether or not something "came out of the egg this way"...they're promoting their animals to sell, remember?

[Kerimac]

Very good point. I am very new at all of this and I am so appreciative of your help. Very good points. Which snakes are your favorite?

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[Bogertophis]

My name should give you a clue. Bogertophis subocularis, aka Trans Pecos rat snake, is a favorite, as are most rat snakes. I also happen to love rattlesnakes, but don't
have any currently...I worked extensively with them for 20 years though. I have mostly rat snakes now of various kinds. If you love mellow snakes, the 2 best rat snakes
are Trans Pecos & Baird's rat snakes, both native to the desert southwest. I used to have and breed Baird's too. I currently have Florida rat snakes (mix of yellow, gulf
hammock & apparently Everglades that their former owner concocted) also a Korean rat snake (NOT recommended), corn snakes (incl. a 21 year old Okeetee from those
I bred), & some other misc. snakes (rosy boa, Aussie spotted python, TX longnose). The list of all I've kept or rescued is too long for here though.