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    A Question Out Of Curiosity

    From time to time I read of someone having a snake with a ringer, and the owner often seems quite excited about this.

    My questions are as follows:

    Does a Ringer add any value to a snake?

    Is a Ringer able to be passed on genetically?

    Is a Ringer a marker for any specific trait?

    Just curious to know, all answers will be appreciated.
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    Ringers are helpful usually to identify possible het pied, every Poss Het Pied with ringer that I have produced has proved, I have to more to prove this coming season
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    Re: A Question Out Of Curiosity

    i have about a dozen animals w/ various stages of ringers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reptilius View Post
    From time to time I read of someone having a snake with a ringer, and the owner often seems quite excited about this.

    My questions are as follows:

    Does a Ringer add any value to a snake?
    yes, it can but it depends. breeders may charge more for quality or it's visual appeal or genetic potential and buyers may deem it worthy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reptilius View Post
    Is a Ringer able to be passed on genetically?
    sure. for example, i have a Dave Green Champagne-combo from his extreme ringer-line. it basically looks like a mid-white Pied. DG-line Champagnes have consistently thrown mid to high white ringers. Dynasty Reptiles (DR) also has a line of their own ringers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reptilius View Post
    Is a Ringer a marker for any specific trait?
    if it comes from a Pied parent (or has had Pied in it's lineage), it can be an indicator for being het Pied. otherwise it's mostly just another (random) pattern like a paradox.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reptilius View Post
    Just curious to know, all answers will be appreciated.
    very good questions. hope my experience helps.
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    I started checking my snakes last night for Ringers.

    I found my Pastel Mojave male with what looks like a Ringer. I will take a pic over the weekend and post on Monday.

    Thank you for your valuable input.
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    0.1 Mojave Spider
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    Sorry about all the questions, but does the Ring have to be white like a pied to be classed as a Ringer.
    I ask because I have seen pics of what people have called Ringers, but they are very faint or faded.
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    1.0 Pinstripe
    1.0 Coral Glow Pastel
    1.0 Ginger Enchi
    1.0 Spectre
    1.0 BlackPastel Yellowbelly
    1.0 Albino
    1.0 Fire
    1.0 Enchi Mojave
    1.0 Enchi
    1.0 Calico
    1.0 Leopard
    0.1 Mojave Spider
    0.1 Butter
    0.2 Fire
    0.1 Yellow Belly
    0.2 Pastel
    0.3 Normal
    0.1 Bumblebee
    0.1 Mystic
    0.1 Enchi
    0.1 Pinstripe 66% het Pied
    0.1 Leopard

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    1.0 Carpet Pythons

    BOAS
    1.1 Dumerils
    2.2 Red Tail


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    1.2 Amel

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    Re: A Question Out Of Curiosity

    Quote Originally Posted by Reptilius View Post
    Sorry about all the questions, but does the Ring have to be white like a pied to be classed as a Ringer.
    no, not really. if it's white and completely wraps, that's a full finger. as i mention, there are various stages of ringers. they can be abrupt disruptions in patterns, super blushed, partially white or full white rings (or more).

    Quote Originally Posted by Reptilius View Post
    I ask because I have seen pics of what people have called Ringers, but they are very faint or faded.
    here are a few examples of my own ringers:

    the top one, a Black Pastel het Pied, has a melted pattern ringer and the bottom Black Pastel YB het Pied has a blushed ringer w/ a lil bit of white.


    this one has a complete ringer (w/ some unusual pixels going on):


    this lil Champagne has a partial white ringer and white ringer tail tip:


    and this is another Champagne w/ an extreme ringer:
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