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    Yeah that sucks. I know you tried pretty much everything and i i thought you said you transported Phyllis in a christmas tree tub when you moved. If so, have you tried just keeping her in there for a few days to see if the change of material/caging causes her to stop pushing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    Yeah that sucks. I know you tried pretty much everything and i i thought you said you transported Phyllis in a christmas tree tub when you moved. If so, have you tried just keeping her in there for a few days to see if the change of material/caging causes her to stop pushing?
    I’ve only got 100qt hefty tubs from Lowe’s. They’re like half the size of a Christmas tree tub. Could order one from iris and try it I guess. I did have her in a T8 for a couple days with no success.
    Kinda loosing confidence in the ability of any theoretical solution to change her behavior at this point though. I know that sounds pretty defeatist but this animal is becoming more burden than I can handle in my life. Most big dogs aren’t even this much work and frustration.


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    I’ve only got 100qt hefty tubs from Lowe’s. They’re like half the size of a Christmas tree tub. Could order one from iris and try it I guess. I did have her in a T8 for a couple days with no success.
    Kinda loosing confidence in the ability of any theoretical solution to change her behavior at this point though. I know that sounds pretty defeatist but this animal is becoming more burden than I can handle in my life. Most big dogs aren’t even this much work and frustration.


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    Well trying a christmas tree tub just to see if the change in cage from an AP is cheaper than building the 8 foot cage to find out she keeps pushing.

    And like i said, you have more patience than me. No way i could have lasted 2 years with the pushing. But at some point, if it just doesnt change and cant be resolved, it is time to move on. Just like a bad relationship, you love the person but being together is just toxic for both of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    Well trying a christmas tree tub just to see if the change in cage from an AP is cheaper than building the 8 foot cage to find out she keeps pushing.

    And like i said, you have more patience than me. No way i could have lasted 2 years with the pushing. But at some point, if it just doesnt change and cant be resolved, it is time to move on. Just like a bad relationship, you love the person but being together is just toxic for both of you.
    Dude, that’s exactly what this feels like right now. A toxic relationship.
    Talking to another retic friend online right now and he said to feed her HEAVY. feed her like I’m trying to kill her lol. Guess I’m ordering 4lb+ rabbits and seeing how that goes


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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcrook View Post
    Dude, that’s exactly what this feels like right now. A toxic relationship.
    Talking to another retic friend online right now and he said to feed her HEAVY. feed her like I’m trying to kill her lol. Guess I’m ordering 4lb+ rabbits and seeing how that goes


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    Probably will be a short term fix but keeping her in a food coma is just basically putting a band aid on a bullet wound. I mean feeding her a 4lb+ rabbit every 4-5 days is going to be bad for her and your wallet lol.

    Good luck though but i really think, try a completely different enclosure color and type. That's why i said try the christmas tree tub. It is different color, different style and material and also smaller so you would be able to kill 3 birds with one stone. If that doesnt work, then other than keeping her in a food coma her whole life, i have no idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    Probably will be a short term fix but keeping her in a food coma is just basically putting a band aid on a bullet wound. I mean feeding her a 4lb+ rabbit every 4-5 days is going to be bad for her and your wallet lol.

    Good luck though but i really think, try a completely different enclosure color and type. That's why i said try the christmas tree tub. It is different color, different style and material and also smaller so you would be able to kill 3 birds with one stone. If that doesnt work, then other than keeping her in a food coma her whole life, i have no idea.
    Might order an xmas tree tub soon but we’ll see. She did always seem to do better with giant meals when she was smaller. Her current rats are the same size she was eating when she weighed 1/4 as much as she does now. 4-5lb rabbits would be like 5-6 rats in one shot. Throwing Hail Marys at this point


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    Might order an xmas tree tub soon but we’ll see. She did always seem to do better with giant meals when she was smaller. Her current rats are the same size she was eating when she weighed 1/4 as much as she does now. 4-5lb rabbits would be like 5-6 rats in one shot. Throwing Hail Marys at this point


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    Yeah. I thought the same with Caesar. But since he quit pushing for the most part, he has been doing ok with just a jumbo rat every 2 weeks. I mean so far it has only been 2 times but so far so good.

    Definitely worth a shot though as there really isnt much else left. Try the tub and bigger meals and see what happens. Not like it could get worse, unfortunately.
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    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    Probably will be a short term fix but keeping her in a food coma is just basically putting a band aid on a bullet wound. I mean feeding her a 4lb+ rabbit every 4-5 days is going to be bad for her and your wallet lol.
    Oh, I should have clarified. Currently feeding 4-5 days but I’m bumping down to Gerald’s jumbo rats for her. Hoping a big rabbit will keep her ass still for a week or so. If she demands 5 day feedings she’s getting xl or jumbo. Figure if a jumbo lasts as long as a colossal then why waste food. With the exception of the rabbit experiment soon.


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    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)

    Have you tried to black out her enclosure where its pitch black? I thought you said a few months back you covered her enclosure did it help?

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    Have you tried to black out her enclosure where its pitch black? I thought you said a few months back you covered her enclosure did it help?

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    I did try that a while back but I don’t know that it got totally dark in there for sure. Didn’t really do much but I might cut some cardboard or mat board to fit right in the tracks over the doors and see if that helps. I can always tell when she’s been at it because there will be spit smeared all over the doors where she pushes at them


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