The controversial enclosure is finished

[Dutti]

We had a long discussion in an another thread about my new enclosure for my 5 years old and 3,6 foot male ball python. Enclosure size in feet: 2 long, 2,62 deep, 3,30 high. Several members said that the floor space is small and the height is less usable than the floor space. This is the link of that thread, its a long one
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?251465-Would-a-male-ball-python-reach-5-feet/page4

To be honest, i was planning to install only one big board(21x14 inches)in which my BP would lay and stretch on, but after that discussion which we had, I have intalled two such boards for him and one tree branch to climb on in order to utilize the height as much as possible. Some accused me in the past of trolling in some of my threads. Actually i,m not. I have profited from that discussion and now look at that enclosure

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[omglolchrisss]

I don't expect many positive comments if any at all especially after that last thread!

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[Dutti]

I don't expect many positive comments if any at all especially after that last thread!

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This is totally not related to the topic. I have never interacted with you before. You jump out of no where to type this!

[mlededee]

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[omglolchrisss]

This is totally not related to the topic. I have never interacted with you before. You jump out of no where to type this!

You referenced the other topic in the title by using the word controversial and you posted a link to said topic. lmao and i dont care if you have interracted with me before when I want to comment I will if you dont want comments dont post on a forum. Also that enclosure for a bp is ridiculous deal with it!

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[Dutti]

You referenced the other topic in the title by using the word controversial and you posted a link to said topic. lmao and i dont care if you have interracted with me before when I want to comment I will if you dont want comments dont post on a forum. Also that enclosure for a bp is ridiculous deal with it!

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Sure you can comment, but you were not talking about the topic. Returning to the topic now, why is the enclosure ridiculos for a bp? It,s a male bp and it has been mentioned many times that male bp,s are much more arboreal than females. This is not my personal opinion. He is enjoying the height very much and climbing

[mlededee]

This is not a suitable enclosure for a ball python, regardless of the sex of the snake. The many reasons why the enclosure is not appropriate were covered in the thread of yours that you already linked to: https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...-reach-5-feet/. Read it and learn from it and no more discussion on the topic is necessary.

[omglolchrisss]

Sure you can comment, but you were not talking about the topic. Returning to the topic now, why is the enclosure ridiculos for a bp? It,s a male bp and it has been mentioned many times that male bp,s are much more arboreal than females. This is not my personal opinion. He is enjoying the height very much and climbing

Because ball pythons are not arboreal you will never find a ball python in the wild living in a tree and with the way that setup is the snake basically has no choice.

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[zina10]

Why reference another thread ? Just update THAT thread then, or start fresh.

But that should entail no mention of "controversy" or "that controversial thread". Unless you have intentions to continue as you began...

However, I will honor the moderators request not to feed into this.



****For the sake of any other snake keepers that may see this****

It is not a good idea because Ball Pythons are MOSTLY terrestrial. In the wild they will climb. Usually found in tree hollows. They seek out hides, just like they do on the ground. There aren't always termite mounds or un-occupied rodent burrows available. Besides if you leave a BP with nowhere to go but "UP" in order to thermo-regulate or try to find a better place, up it will go.
I used to have large 4 ft cages for my adult BP's with some sturdy, thick branches inside. At the highest those branches were about 6 inches off the ground. Every so often I would hear a loud "THUMP" in the night, and I knew from experience, one of them had fallen off the branch again. I would find them under the branch, trying to "right themselves".

As adults they do not make the most graceful nor accomplished climbers and I would hate for one to fall from such a height. Broken neck and ribs certainly a possibility.


**For Dutti** Not arguing with you. Do as you please and for whichever reason. No need to explain.

[Dutti]

Why reference another thread ? Just update THAT thread then, or start fresh.

But that should entail no mention of "controversy" or "that controversial thread". Unless you have intentions to continue as you began...

However, I will honor the moderators request not to feed into this.



****For the sake of any other snake keepers that may see this****

It is not a good idea because Ball Pythons are MOSTLY terrestrial. In the wild they will climb. Usually found in tree hollows. They seek out hides, just like they do on the ground. There aren't always termite mounds or un-occupied rodent burrows available. Besides if you leave a BP with nowhere to go but "UP" in order to thermo-regulate or try to find a better place, up it will go.
I used to have large 4 ft cages for my adult BP's with some sturdy, thick branches inside. At the highest those branches were about 6 inches off the ground. Every so often I would hear a loud "THUMP" in the night, and I knew from experience, one of them had fallen off the branch again. I would find them under the branch, trying to "right themselves".

As adults they do not make the most graceful nor accomplished climbers and I would hate for one to fall from such a height. Broken neck and ribs certainly a possibility.


**For Dutti** Not arguing with you. Do as you please and for whichever reason. No need to explain.

But everyone can see that in my enclosure he is not living on a tree. He has a good ground space 744 sq. inches while the 40 gallon breeder has 648 sq. inches. And he has 2 side boards on different height levels. A side board is not the same as a tree branch, it offers an extra floor space.