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Breeding Low muscle female
Hi guy, I would like finally try breeding this season.
I have two female that I wish to pair.
they are both above 2000grams and almost 4 or 5 years old.
Now the bigger butter pastel female is muscular and firm, she would wrap herself around my neck or arm.
The one i have concern about is the slight smaller bumblebee of the same age. She has always been more squishy and low in muscle tone. She has never coil around my arms or my neck even when she is small. She would literally plop her lower half whenever i pick her up. If i didn't hold on she would fall…
She has always been like this and As far as I can tell she is not fat. I can't see the skin between the scale but she has always been the lazier one. I never see her roam in her tub.
Both went off feed during the summer for me . I figure they were regulating their own weight. They have recently started pounding rats again. The Bumblebee did not lose any squishiness when she was off feed for almost 5 months. Lost a little weight but still very squishy. The butter pastel however firm up during her fast.
Is it safe to breed the bumblebee? I'm really worry that she will get egg bound, but I don't handle hundreds of snake a day. I'm not sure if I'm just being over anxious.
they are both keep in the same rack with the same ambient and hot spot setting. I try and feed them the same size meal, I alternative between medium rats and small + rats and feed them on a 10day or more schedule to avoid over feeding
Can any experience breed chime in?
Last edited by threezero; 10-26-2017 at 10:42 PM.
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Muscle tone their ability to wrap themselves around my arm or neck, or lack there of is not something that would make me question pairing a female.
There are 3 things when it comes to breeding that I pay attention to
Age
Weight
Body proportion
I can't tell you what to do but I can tell you that if one of my animal meet 2 out of 3 criteria it will not be bred.
Without seeing the female and only knowing her size I can't tell you if that is something I would breed or not.
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Re: Breeding Low muscle female
can you specify more about body proportion and what you look for?
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A female should be plump if she is lean to me it's a no go even for a female that is proper weight.
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Ok both of mine is properly plumped.
Low muscle mass has never worried you? Have you breed low muscle massed females successfully?
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The "squishy" seems to be something that comes along with spiders on some occasions and is not something to be concerned about. Follow Debs's advice. Post a pic of the girl if there is any doubt.
Honest, I only need one more ...
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Re: Breeding Low muscle female
 Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan
The "squishy" seems to be something that comes along with spiders on some occasions and is not something to be concerned about. Follow Debs's advice. Post a pic of the girl if there is any doubt.
thank you. I didn't know spider ten to have this trait. Do they also do the no coil low muscle tone thing as well? She was never a really ferocious eater but I have allow her to pack on weight slowly.
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Perhaps she is just more....relaxed during handling? Some of my snakes seem firm others soft. The soft ones are more docile and less nervous.
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