Orange Dream: Does it age well?

[artgecko]

Hello guys,

I'm curious about Orange Dream. I've never seen one in person (only pics) and I've always wondered how well they age. I know that the gene functions to clean up patterns (similar to fire and enchi) and I do like the more reduced pattern they seem to produce, but I'm on the fence regarding how it effects color. Young snakes seem to have increased orange tones, but how well does that hold up with age?

For those that are working with the gene, I'd ask what your thoughts are on how well it stacks up to fire and enchi, how well it combines with those genes, and how well the adults keep their coloration? If you happen to have any pics of adult OD animals you have that would be helpful too.

If you have any other thoughts on the gene, please feel free to share. I know basically nothing (other than what I stated above) so I'd love to learn more.

[rufretic]

OD is interesting in that it seems to age well when combined with the right morphs but on its own, at least from what I’ve seen, the orange color does not hold up well. The few adults I’ve seen have had beautiful clean patterns but had lost that bright orange coloring that you see when they are young. As for what morphs help them retain the color, enchi is the best that I’ve seen. I have a OD enchi female that is a sub adult and she is still very orange. I’ll post a picture for example a little later.

[rufretic]

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[Albert Clark]

Well, i am just starting out with OD and both individuals are young so i will be interested as well. One is OD yellowbelly and he is very bright. About 6 months old. The female is OD 66% het pied and she is extremely bright. I will post their pics later and she is about the same age as the male (6 mos.). Recently put a fire OD 100% het pied 1.0 on hold who i have only seen pics of, but he has a reduced pattern and looks orangey but nowhere as bright as my female. He is a hatchling. So, i think fire is another gene that adds to the beauty of OD.

[Albert Clark]

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[rufretic]

Well, i am just starting out with OD and both individuals are young so i will be interested as well. One is OD yellowbelly and he is very bright. About 6 months old. The female is OD 66% het pied and she is extremely bright. I will post their pics later and she is about the same age as the male (6 mos.). Recently put a fire OD 100% het pied 1.0 on hold who i have only seen pics of, but he has a reduced pattern and looks orangey but nowhere as bright as my female. He is a hatchling. So, i think fire is another gene that adds to the beauty of OD.

Your going to make some amazing combos!

I agree that fire is another one of the best choices to combine with OD. From my experience it doesn’t help with the orange retention as much as enchi but it keeps the colors very bright and clean. Here is my male OD fire black pastel



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[Albert Clark]

Gotcha ruf! This is my OD 66% het pied 0.1

[artgecko]

Thanks for your responses and the great pics! You guys have beautiful animals.

Enchi is one of my favorite genes, as well as fire. My first breeding project is centered around hypo, with a hypo calico female and a hypo enchi pastel kingpin female. I'm trying to figure out what genes I want in a male and OD is on my list... Haven't seen any pics of OD hypos though, so not sure about the combination. I like anything that brightens colors and reduces pattern though, so I'm thinking it might be a good combination.

[cchardwick]

If you mix it with yellow belly I'd have to say the results could be a mixed bag. Just look at the Highway and Freeway combos, each one seems to have a completely different look even though the only thing in the snake is yellow belly and gravel (or asphalt). I'm thinking that there are many different lines of yellow belly with slight differences. You can hardly tell a yellow belly from a normal when it's on it's own but mixed with the right genes you can clearly tell a difference between different yellow belly lines.

[rufretic]

If you mix it with yellow belly I'd have to say the results could be a mixed bag. Just look at the Highway and Freeway combos, each one seems to have a completely different look even though the only thing in the snake is yellow belly and gravel (or asphalt). I'm thinking that there are many different lines of yellow belly with slight differences. You can hardly tell a yellow belly from a normal when it's on it's own but mixed with the right genes you can clearly tell a difference between different yellow belly lines.

I think you might be a little confused, the yellow belly is pretty consistent but depending on what you mix it with you can get way different results. The highway for example, all look very similar but then if you use asphalt instead of gravel you get freeway which looks very different from highway but in general most freeways look very similar. So it wouldn’t be different lines of yellow belly that are making the crazy different combos, it’s which morph you add to it that makes the difference.