how did you mount your radiant heat panel?

[Mr. Misha]

I have a Pro Panel ontop of my quarantine 33 long. It works fine with the other side covered with plexyglass to hold the heat . It's not air tight at all so there's definitely enough circulation My hot side steady at 91 and cool 78-80. The reptile basics RHP are not flat like the pro panels so I can't comment about those. My pro panel is 12" wide so it works perfect. Never bothered the screen or anything else. I would definitely go with the pro panel an extra $20 is nothing for top quality. Also there's no plastic smell when it heats up because pro panels are aluminum. It is all around a better product And safer.


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Have you tried out the Reptile Basics RHP and didn't like it? Also, how are the Pro Panel safer? Just curious.

[CALM Pythons]

Have you tried out the Reptile Basics RHP and didn't like it? Also, how are the Pro Panel safer? Just curious.

Well they have never caused a fire in the History of them for one..
Bob has his Pro Panels certified like other consumer electronics. That means that they pass safety and efficiency standards. People have reported overheating/fire issues with RBI panels.







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[Mr. Misha]

Well they have never caused a fire in the History of them for one..
Bob has his Pro Panels certified like other consumer electronics. That means that they pass safety and efficiency standards. People have reported overheating/fire issues with RBI panels.







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I haven't been able to find a single UL, ULC or CE certification. I'd appreciate if you can point me in the right direction.

[CALM Pythons]

I haven't been able to find a single UL, ULC or CE certification. I'd appreciate if you can point me in the right direction.

All I can say is that its known and all over the internet and this forum has several topics on this if you use the search. I have 3 Pro Panels and all my packaging had the slip with it UL listed.
We are 1/8th the sales for Pro Panel. His business is with Zoo's ect...

(Heres something from online)
Pro Heat panels are UL, ULC & CE listed, constructed of non-toxic materials and can never catch on fire, damage any surface or injure an animal. They are also built in accordance with all of the requirements necessary to create the best heater design and performance. They are also the only panel that is UL approved for use in high humidity.



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[SDA]

The heating element is UL listed in RBI, Pro Products, and Helix. That does not mean the RHP is UL listed, just the element so these manufacturers cannot by law claim their device is UL listed unless they pay to have the entire device tested which they are most likely not going to.

http://www.reptilebasics.com/manuals/heatpanel.htm

The internal element is UL listed and is designed to operate for 40+ years under normal conditions. Please read all of the instructions thoroughly before proceeding!

Pretty sure also Helix uses the same product pro products sells now. So RBI or Pro products... your choice.

Here is pro products page so you can read what they say.

http://pro-products.com/pro-heat/

[CALM Pythons]

Heres from Bob himself :
Our Pro Panels are the only panels sold that are UL, ULC and CE listed, ASTM E84<25 rated and we guarantee in writing that they can never cause a fire, burn or damage any surface they are mounted against and will not injure an animal. They are made of totally non-toxic materials and will never pose any health risk to you or your animals. They also outperform and outlast any other radiant panel sold. We only sell our panels directly through our facility, so they are not available through any retail vendor (with the exception of a couple of cage manufactures we work directly with).


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[SDA]

My point is both are perfectly safe an are in use in thousands of cages across the country. They both put in a lot of redundancy that makes them a lot better to operate than alternatives like CHEs

http://www.reptilebasics.com/radiant-faq

Read "what about fire safety"

[Mr. Misha]

All I can say is that its known and all over the internet and this forum has several topics on this if you use the search. I have 3 Pro Panels and all my packaging had the slip with it UL listed.
We are 1/8th the sales for Pro Panel. His business is with Zoo's ect...

(Heres something from online)
Pro Heat panels are UL, ULC & CE listed, constructed of non-toxic materials and can never catch on fire, damage any surface or injure an animal. They are also built in accordance with all of the requirements necessary to create the best heater design and performance. They are also the only panel that is UL approved for use in high humidity.



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So my question still stands, what's the UL number for the Pro Heat panels? I'm not sure I'm going to get that answer because I don't believe it exists.

I don't think it's very ethical of you to boast about safety of a certain product without providing any proof, especially something important as UL cert. Bob used to boast about a UL rated panels back in the day but I don't even see that stated on his own website. Don't you think that's pretty strange? Also, the online resource you quoted is from a 2009 post from this forum from a user that only has 9 posts so forgive me if I'm not inclined to believe it.

Point is, you can buy and love whatever product you want but don't bash a competitor's product with which you have no experience. I get really peeved when someone tries to put down a reputable company. If you're going to claim superiority, then be ready to provide some facts, not post something that was written 8 years ago on a forum.

I actually own both panels and BOTH work great. No "plastic smell" from RBI panels as you claim because it's made of kydex material and doesn't need to be out gassed.:cens0r:

[CALM Pythons]

So my question still stands, what's the UL number for the Pro Heat panels? I'm not sure I'm going to get that answer because I don't believe it exists.

I don't think it's very ethical of you to boast about safety of a certain product without providing any proof, especially something important as UL cert. Bob used to boast about a UL rated panels back in the day but I don't even see that stated on his own website. Don't you think that's pretty strange? Also, the online resource you quoted is from a 2009 post from this forum from a user that only has 9 posts so forgive me if I'm not inclined to believe it.

Point is, you can buy and love whatever product you want but don't bash a competitor's product with which you have no experience. I get really peeved when someone tries to put down a reputable company. If you're going to claim superiority, then be ready to provide some facts, not post something that was written 8 years ago on a forum.

I actually own both panels and BOTH work great. No "plastic smell" from RBI panels as you claim because it's made of kydex material and doesn't need to be out gassed.:cens0r:

My second reply was from Bob himself. If you have a Pro Panel you should know as its been printed and I've read it. I'm not going back-and-forth with you I simply gave someone GOOD information which is what this forum is for.
As far as RBI, there have been SEVERAL fires reported in the past and also reports of their RHP melting, if thats safe to you by all means you have every right to buy them. I'm done talking to someone that seems to be looking for a disagreement. Maybe you need to go join a debate club instead of a forum where people help each other.

Also as far as your statement about the experience i lack with RBI, you have no clue so stick to what you know. Ive owned Pythons for 30 years this year so I may have picked up a few things along the way.


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[Mr. Misha]

Well they have never caused a fire in the History of them for one..
Bob has his Pro Panels certified like other consumer electronics. That means that they pass safety and efficiency standards. People have reported overheating/fire issues with RBI panels. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No, you are NOT providing good information. Why post that the panels are certified, when they are not? I also asked you whether you had experience with RBI panels. You dodged that question as well.

The last thing I want to do is "debate" you. However, I'm going to call you out if what you're posting is incorrect. If you have a problem with people questioning what you write on a public forum, maybe this isn't the place for you.

In regards to Bob, I haven't met or spoke with him personally because he never tends to return my emails regarding those UL certs. However, I've been here long enough to have read about his "interesting" business practices:
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinio...irosol-co-inc/
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCOUR...cv-02632-4.pdf