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    Fire possible granit?

    Was sold to me as fire possible granit.
    How do you know its a granit or not?





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    Breed it. Breed the offspring that appear to be granite back to that adult. See if you get a super granite
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    Re: Fire possible granit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    Breed it. Breed the offspring that appear to be granite back to that adult. See if you get a super granite
    So i cant see by visual right?


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    I wouldnt doubt there is Granite.

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    Re: Fire possible granit?

    Quote Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    I wouldnt doubt there is Granite.
    Then its just a fire right? Thank you then


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    Re: Fire possible granit?

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    Then its just a fire right? Thank you then
    Re-read...... I WOULDNT (would NOT) doubt there is Granite.....
    Now you can try and prove it as genetic and if its dom or co-dom.

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    Re: Fire possible granit?

    Quote Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    Re-read...... I WOULDNT (would NOT) doubt there is Granite.....
    Now you can try and prove it as genetic and if its dom or co-dom.
    Sorry about my english.

    Now his label is fire granit right? We just dont know dom or co-dom granit. Would try to get a granit female then.

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    Re: Fire possible granit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Billylesmanaa View Post
    Sorry about my english.

    Now his label is fire granit right? We just dont know dom or co-dom granit. Would try to get a granit female then.

    Big thanks


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    He is a Fire that has a granite pattern. Sometimes the granite pattern is due to an incomplete dominate gene (it shows up in the heterozygus form and it has a more extreme super, homozygus, form), sometimes the granite pattern is due to a dominate gene (it looks the same in the heterozygus and homozygus forms), and sometimes the granite pattern is due to the unique combination of multiple genes and is not directly inheritable (more of a line bred trait).

    I would not buy a Granite female for him because you don't know if he has a granite gene, and if he does have a granite gene, you don't know if it is one of the dominate granite genes, or one of the incomplete dominate granite genes.

    The wisest course of action is what Oxylepy suggested, breed him and if a female baby expresses the granite pattern, keep her and raise her up to breed back to him to see if there might be a super form. That way you know that the granite in the female is linked to the granite in the male (this course of action would not eliminate the possibility that it is a line bred trait).

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    Re: Fire possible granit?

    Slowcountry balls pretty much summed it up. It is fire and it definitely has a granitey pattern. The only question is whether that pattern is heritable and what that inheritance pattern is.


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