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    Re: Best First Rack system to buy?

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    A good rack for that is C-Serpent V18 racks you can keep hatchling up to 600 grams and than move them to their permanent adult enclosure.

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    I looked at the the v18. I love it and it is WAY more affordable than reptile basics... ok, so another question. It comes with tubs and heat, but I know I need a thermostat. But does just one thermostat control all of the tubs or do I need one for EACH tub? If that's the case, dang. Talk about upfront cost!


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    Re: Best First Rack system to buy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mangiapane85 View Post
    I looked at the the v18. I love it and it is WAY more affordable than reptile basics... ok, so another question. It comes with tubs and heat, but I know I need a thermostat. But does just one thermostat control all of the tubs or do I need one for EACH tub? If that's the case, dang. Talk about upfront cost!


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    Almost all commercial rack systems only require one thermostat outlet to run the entire rack.

    To answer your initial question: I would make sure of two things: (1) Make sure whatever heat tape system/layout they use has a way to keep the sliding tubs from rubbing on the heat tape. Most systems have taken this into consideration due to experience, but I would double check. (2) Ensure that there is a reasonable way to pull the heat tape in the event of failure. I have always liked the open back style racks because everything is more accessible in the event of a problem.

    Size-wise: For adults, I would recommend the 41 qt. This may garner some disagreement, but I have a ~2200g male and I can't imagine keeping him in something smaller. For babies/juveniles, I suggest something kind of the middle as it gives them room to grow. If the snake is stressed by the tub feeling "too big", you can almost always solve this by crowding the tub with hides,terrain, etc.

    Any of the vision or IRIS tubs are my preferred style. They are completely smooth and super easy to clean.

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    Get a sweaterbox rack from reptile basics with the dividers they sell seperately. It will hold hatchlings, adult males and females until they are about 2000grams.

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    Re: Best First Rack system to buy?

    QUICK UPDATE!: I am going to order the v-18 rack. I spoke w Chris at cserpents and he's a good guy and I am SOLD. However, what thermostat do you guys think I should go with? I just need a single thermostat he said to control all of the tubs, so would the ve-100 from vivarium electronics be sufficient? He sells him on his site, so I could get everything I need at once.... that IS all I would need right? Lol


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    Re: Best First Rack system to buy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mangiapane85 View Post
    QUICK UPDATE!: I am going to order the v-18 rack. I spoke w Chris at cserpents and he's a good guy and I am SOLD. However, what thermostat do you guys think I should go with? I just need a single thermostat he said to control all of the tubs, so would the ve-100 from vivarium electronics be sufficient? He sells him on his site, so I could get everything I need at once.... that IS all I would need right? Lol


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    Yes the thermostat sold are sufficient, after that it is a matter of preference I like Herpstat myself but I have a single Vivarium and it works fine.
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    Re: Best First Rack system to buy?

    Too late now! Lol. I just order the 8 tub v-18 with the ve-100 thermostat. I wish you guys knew how excited I am! Lol!!... oh wait, maybe you do because you've all been there too!


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    It's awesome that you found what you were looking for, so let me help you with "your next step"... what's next.

    You already said that you are looking to add more snakes, which is awesome, and you also mentioned that you plan to breed in 2-3 years, so I would suggest that your next major husbandry purchase is a multi-output thermostat. I am moving my snakes out of a Vision 5 tub V70 (and two stand-alone 32q tubs), into a custom enclosure, and my MAJOR concern is heating it all. I will be going up from 7 snakes to 25+ (I have 4 females all within a few hundred grams of breeding)... so my thermostat is going to be the Herpstat that can control 6 different zones. I'll have control for the following from one t-stat:
    • Hatchling tubs (normally a few degrees hotter)
    • Juveniles
    • Adults (difference from juvies is that adults cool during breeding)
    • Incubator
    • 2x space for more future racks!


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    I can't wait for that juice box. Going broke for these little animals will be so much fun!! Lol!


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