Difficultly level?

[erebus45]

Ok I am new to the whole breeding scene as iv never done it and don't plan on it for probably a couple years but I was wandering let's say I just wanna breed regular bp no morphs how hard is it and how much money am I looking to put into to get everything I need (roughly)..... Just curious because I would love to do it but I don't have near the knowledge I need to be capable of breeding.....thank you in advance

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[StillBP]

It is not very hard. The most costly item will be a good incubator.
But breeding normals will have no return at all. It is rather hard to find homes for them
Might i suggest if you do not want to invest a lot in your stock that you try simple morphs like pastels and mojave and pinstripes. They can be found cheap and are much easyer to resell

[erebus45]

I really want to build up to it I wanna take it a step at a time..... The main thing I don't understand is like dominant and recessive genes but I guess unless I'm looking to make a certain type I really wouldn't need to know right off hand would i? But it's like I said it will be awhile before I acually get into it so I have time to do a lot of research on it... But I will definitely look into those morphs right now I only have one normal bp and it's my first snake he is about 4 months old iv only had him for 5 days now I wanna learn all I can about keeping them happy and healthy before I tackle a big task like breeding.... But I know one thing for sure I want to make snakes a hobby.... Thank you

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[JodanOrNoDan]

Study, study, study then determine if you want to breed. There are many factors to consider especially economical. There are very few situations that are economically exceptable to justify breeding a normal. I know of no one that breeds to make normals. Normals are the result when the odds go against the breeder. Don't get me wrong, normals are just as good as any other ball as a pet but they are not worth much money wise. It costs the same to keep and breed a high end morph as it does a normal the only difference is the initial cost.

[erebus45]

I see and that does make a lot of sense I would love to breed morphs but I want to make sure I'm financially and mentally prepared cuz I'm sure it takes a lot of patience as well as money

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[Stewart_Reptiles]

You will need to either maternal ly incubate or build an incubator which will be around $150

You will need to build or buy an hatchling rack (size will depend on the number or cluches) shooting for 6 to 12 tubs since that is the average number of eggs, of course that will mean another Reliable thermostat, that alone will be $150.

You will need to find a reliable food source or breed your own which means building a rack for your feeders.

You are looking at $300 to $500 and it could add up if you cannot sell your offsprings which can be very hard with normals, and if they do sell you are looking at making back $15 if lucky per animals.

So financially it translate as a loss every time you will breed your normal, from the initial investment to the fact that by the time you sell them (if you do) you will have spend more in food to feed them than what they are worth.

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[erebus45]

So if and when I get it all set up what should I start out breeding to be able to break even or even make a buck or two for the first couple times till I can get established in it im really liking what stillbp suggested.... thank you very much for information

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[Stewart_Reptiles]

So if and when I get it all set up what should I start out breeding to be able to break even or even make a buck or two for the first couple times till I can get established in it im really liking what stillbp suggested.... thank you very much for information

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To break even or make a profit you will need to make a good investment to do that you will need to know and understand the market.

To me my goals when I started (10 years ago) were two things, produced the animals I could not afford and have a collection paying for itself at some point, I reached those goals and more I have been making a profit for several years however I chose not to do that for a living.

So it depends what you want to get out of it, fun experience not caring if you lose money, produce cool animals and have a collection paying for itself, produce cool animals and make some extra cash, or make a living at it.

And if you invest in single gene like Mojave, Pinstripe, Pastel there is hardly any return either we are talking about animals between $25 and $75 which by the time you will produce some will have dropped even more.

If you want to get a good start investing in a 2 to 3 gene female is where I would start and than in about 12 to 18 months get a male, the most gene you can afford, again it's about knowing your market, and of course it will have to do with promoting yourself as well, even if you were to buy and produce expensive animals selling them if no one heard of you might not be that easy.

[erebus45]

Wow thank you so much I will definitely take that and run with it I will for sure start researching genes and pricing the stuff I need I am currently 19 being i am a electrician theirs kinda I limit on money but then again not really and I have some yrs to be able to learn.... Thank you

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[enginee837]

As with any business, plan on loosing money for the first few years. There is a lot to be learned between the time you buy the snakes and the time those little eggs hatch and you actually find someone willing to buy them. There are also a lot of things that can come up in the process that will cut into your bottom line. You may get a snake that does not like to eat making getting size on it frustrating at best, you may get one that gets sick, you may get one that is sterile and can't breed or one simply not interested in breeding.

As stated above, from a monetary standpoint starting with normals is a bad idea. It will be easier to make them than it will be to sell them. You want to pick snakes there will be a demand for when you finally get them. Co dominant genes are nice because you only need 1 animal to have the gene to pass it on however the price drops faster on them because you can produce a lot more of them a lot faster than recessive. You also have less control in the sense that you always run the risk of getting a normal. Recessive are more expensive comparatively speaking but will hold value longer. The other downside is you need both parents to be het at a minimum. Then there are genes prone to issues.
At this point you need to look at the genes that appeal to you. Research them, research genetics, research the market and evaluate what you are willing and able to invest.
I would recommend approaching it like a hobby that has the potential to break even if you play it smart. After a few years and clutches you will be in a better position to decide if making a business out of it is feasible for you.