Lesser pied piper

[AntTheDestroyer]

I am wondering about this combination. There does not seem to be a ton of examples online. There is conflicting information if they are generally all white or have a few tan spots. It seems to be the consensus that they all have completely white heads. Has anyone ever produced lesser pieds combined with other genes? I am especially interested in genes that tend to decrease white percentage like leopard. I would love to hear about any lesser pieds or other combinations including these two genes. Of course everything is better with a bit of eye candy so I would love to see pictures.

[Bigfish1975]

The only lesser pieds I've personally seen are solid white. I haven't personally produced any because I prefer my pieds in the 40-60% white range. One combo that I'm hopefully cooking in the incubator at the moment is Orange Dream Pieds and Yellowbelly Pieds. Another good one if you;re looking for more pattern are enchi pieds and some of the fire/firefly pieds are pretty spectacular as well. I'm hopefully 2 weeks away from some firefly het hieds as well.

[AntTheDestroyer]

I was more wondering what the morphs that produce low white pied would do when added into the lesser pied combo. Would you still get all white animals or would it produce more pattern? Man I would love to find a firefly or od het pied.

[Bigfish1975]

Oh I see. Not sure on that. Can't say that I've see any other combos combined with lesser pied.

[AntTheDestroyer]

Me either. There is not much info about this on the internet, which is why I came here. Hopefully someone will have some input. This seems like an interesting topic to me, so I am a little confused why there is not more interest.

[Bigfish1975]

Yeah, I agree. Personally I wanted to try for mystic potion pieds and saw the high/all white pics and I went away from it for the fact that I like the medium whites like I mentioned before. I had a pairing this season from a mojo leopard X mojo anad I got 3 BELS but couldn't tell with certainty if leopard was in them. So for myself, not being able to tell if other genes are in the pied combo is a turn off. Could be a really cool outcome if enchi or leopard were introduced but that will be a project I'll have to see someone else do.

[Ax01]

what do u mean by "piper" in your thread title "Lesser Pied Piper" ?

anyway i have a beautiful Lesser Pied produced by Dave Green. she's all white, has black eyes with red pupils and perfect. she was produced from a Pied het Albino x Cinny Lesser het Pied (with HUGE ringer) pairing, so she might have Cinny in her but can't tell b/c she's completely white and Pied. here's some pix of her including some black light ones...



i know hidden patterns will show up under black light in some BEL's. i realized after that hidden patterns probably won't show up in the white of Pied's. so she might have Cinny and i will have to see/prove her out.


Edit: she also had a Lesser Pied bother from the same clutch - also all white. Dave just hatched another 1.0 Lesser Pied - all white - but this one has the small eyes defect common in the combo. this one Dave is selling a great discount and it would make a fantastic pet, probably not the best breeder tho.

[AntTheDestroyer]

It is a play on words, just like the pied piper but I am calling all lesser pied. The fact that the eyes show a red tint answers another question, being that if they are truly black eyed luecistics. So it seems lesser pieds are generally solid white. The cinnamon combination is certainly interesting but this gene also increases the amount of white in pieds. If any pattern were showing it would likely be on the head as this is where most cinnamon pied show their true colors. It is neat that you own a snake capable of producing both black and blue eyed luecistics.

[Hannahshissyfix]

Edit: she also had a Lesser Pied bother from the same clutch - also all white. Dave just hatched another 1.0 Lesser Pied - all white - but this one has the small eyes defect common in the combo. this one Dave is selling a great discount and it would make a fantastic pet, probably not the best breeder tho.

Darn. I was wondering why he was listed so low and not gone fast.