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    Question Heat question?

    Hi! Not new to reptile, but totally new to snakes!!!
    Yesterday we got a 3 year old female Spider ball from a guy who was rehoming her.
    Set up: 40g tank, uth for a 30-40g, (reptile carpet over just the uth,) then bedding. One hide over uth, one hide on opposite side of tank. Water bowl and climbing tree central. 50 watt ambient heat night black light over the uth hut, 75watt ambient heat night black light over cold side. (Probe on hot side sits on the bedding inside the hut and probe for coold side sits right beside the hut at ground level.)

    We are moving in august, but right now, the ac is wonky. 21 freezes us but 22 boils us and shoots the tank Temps to insane proportions.

    At the moment, with the ac running game almost constantly, her hot side probe, (ground level inside hut) reads 93.5, so I moved that light a touch more central and it now reads 89.4. Her cold side probe (ground level, beside hut) reads 79.7. (I've come to the conclusion from research that cold side 78-85 is acceptable and hot side 88-95 is acceptable?

    Are these Temps ok? Shoukd i bump the cold side to a 100watt ambient light night black light or will that be too hot?

    She seems to prefer the cold side.

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    Re: Heat question?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yzmasmom View Post
    uth for a 30-40g, (reptile carpet over just the uth,) then bedding.
    What is the temperature of the glass UNDER all the substrate?
    How are you regulating your UTH.
    The temperature of the hit side, I would bet is not correct.

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    Re: Heat question?

    Quote Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    What is the temperature of the glass UNDER all the substrate?
    How are you regulating your UTH.
    The temperature of the hit side, I would bet is not correct.

    I don't know what it is directly on the glass, but it's the temperature where she's sitting that I need to measure right? It sits between 89 and 92 depending g on where I move the 50 watt light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    What is the temperature of the glass UNDER all the substrate?
    How are you regulating your UTH.
    The temperature of the hit side, I would bet is not correct.

    I don't know what it is directly on the glass, but it's the temperature where she's sitting that I need to measure right? It sits between 89 and 92 depending g on where I move the 50 watt light.

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    Re: Heat question?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yzmasmom View Post
    I don't know what it is directly on the glass, but it's the temperature where she's sitting that I need to measure right?
    Nope they an and will burrow. You need to temp the hottest part your snake can touch. Glass under everything.
    BTW I would trash the reticarpet, You cannot really clean it after it has been "soiled".

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    You need to measure the glass under the substrate because they can and will excavate down to that and too hot and you've got a hurt snake. Too cool above and, well, they'll get down to where they need to be.
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    Re: Heat question?

    I have another carpet to switch out when this gets dirty.

    So, if I get the part right on top of the carpet to 90, then the top of the bedding temp doesn't matter?
    Last edited by Yzmasmom; 06-19-2016 at 07:32 PM.

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    What they are saying is that you need a thermostat to regulate the UTH. If you don't have one it will get the floor of the tank up to 120-125*F, hot enough to burn your snake = big vet bill. Your snake will find his way under the carpet; ball pythons love to burrow.

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    I was recommended to use the carpet by a breeder.

    So.... by using the thermostat to keep the spot under the bedding at 90, then the surface temp will be colder. This is ok? I won't know the surface temp with the thermometer under the bedding.

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    Also, on the cold side, where should the probe be?

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    Re: Heat question?

    Get a thermostat and make the temp under the bedding no higher than 94, then above your bedding should be around 88-90. If you are not getting 88-90 then you need to thin out the bedding over the hot side which is something you can't do with carpet and another reason to get rid of it. You need a ir temp gun or another probe thermometer so you can monitor the temp under bedding and on top.

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