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Re: Too hot?
 Originally Posted by KMG
It really doesn't.
As my ambient temps drop 2°.... yep it doesn't effect it. Anyways, I do agree that it has a minimal effect on it, but to say it has no effect is not correct.
Last edited by Jon14; 04-24-2016 at 08:05 AM.
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Agreed. Without the CHE my ambient temps would be as low as 68. With it, the coldest spots are 78 running up to mid-low 90's directly under the lamp. Adjusting the temps for the hot spot changes the overall ambient temp when your heater is the source of both.
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Re: Too hot?
 Originally Posted by Jon14
As my ambient temps drop 2°....  yep it doesn't effect it. Anyways, I do agree that it has a minimal effect on it, but to say it has no effect is not correct.
When regulated around 90 degrees it really doesn't and 2 degrees doesn't matter.
You should always be checking temperatures on the hottest surface your animal can touch. This would be under everything.
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Re: Too hot?
 Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl
You should always be checking temperatures on the hottest surface your animal can touch. This would be under everything. 
Nobody said that I did not check the hot area, hence why I started the thread. My thought process on the substrate within the hide is that she wouldn't have a reason to dig it out if it was 92° because it would be plenty warm for her.
As for the slight temperature decrease, 2° is significant to me. Now if it were .1 or .01°, then it would not be that significant, but that is just my thoughts on it.
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Is it not more important to observe your snake and where it is hanging out?
If your snake is spending way more time in his/her cold side hide, you might actually be a few degrees too hot.
I watch the natural temp raise and humidity drop over about a 3 day span in my tank from 88 F to a peak of 92 F after about 72 hours undisturbed. The humidity drops from 70 to about 55 in that time.
But I notice my snake will spend way more time on his hot side when it's below 90 and then he shifts to the cold side as it raises.
I would really only think the tank is too hot if my snake never left the cold side.
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Re: Too hot?
 Originally Posted by Hammertime1977
Is it not more important to observe your snake and where it is hanging out?
I completely agree, I have been keeping an eye on her, and she spends majority of her time on the hot side (my cool side temps and ambient are where they should be).
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Re: Too hot?
 Originally Posted by MandMac
Agreed. Without the CHE my ambient temps would be as low as 68. With it, the coldest spots are 78 running up to mid-low 90's directly under the lamp. Adjusting the temps for the hot spot changes the overall ambient temp when your heater is the source of both.
Of course a CHE changes the ambient temp. That is an overhead heat source pumping out a ton of heat. Sure it is a more directed beam than a flooding heat bulb but it has heat spill that reaches and warms the entire cage.
A UTH on the other hand is a under tank heat source that should only be putting off enough heat to get a nice hot spot of 88-90(on the cage floor). An UTH is not meant for heating the entire cage, though many people believe they are.
Comparing the effect of a CHE is nothing like a UTH.
Im just glad the OP didn't have the substrate so thick they had to have the UTH pumped up and caused a burn on the snake when it moved the substrate aside.
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Re: Too hot?
 Originally Posted by Jon14
As my ambient temps drop 2°....  yep it doesn't effect it. Anyways, I do agree that it has a minimal effect on it, but to say it has no effect is not correct.
No other factors could have aided the drop? Like a night time temp drop of the house. My snake room drops more than two degrees at night and Im in Texas.
Lets see if the ambient temps don't pick back up around noon.
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0.1 Emerald Tree Boa 0.1 Dumeril Boa 0.1 Carpet Python 0.1 Central American Boa
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Re: Too hot?
95 is too high. Another thing to keep in mind - Someone I saw has been keeping their hotspot at 94, and their female snakes are all almost completely laying slugs only. I believe the heat kills sperm and results in infertile eggs.
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Re: Too hot?
 Originally Posted by KMG
No other factors could have aided the drop? Like a night time temp drop of the house. My snake room drops more than two degrees at night and Im in Texas.
Lets see if the ambient temps don't pick back up around noon.
The temperatures in my room stays constant as it is the basement. It seems to always be 60°. The temperature drop occurred shortly after altering my temps.
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