Kevin Smith ( Bad Businessman )

[southernherper]

Kevin Smith of Buffalo NY is a horrible businessman who sells sick /dead or dying snakes.
If you see him...run the other way like he has typhoid fever!

[Stewart_Reptiles]

I have no idea who HE is and at the same time I have no idea who YOU are either and while it's not required proof would really help your case imagine if someone new to the forum like yourself came and posted the same thing about you.

So I think in YOUR interest but also in the interest of the people you want to protect, you should elaborate, plus it's a pretty common name too.

[southernherper]

He sells Ball Pythons and Retics

[southernherper]

Understandable I'm not sure how to prove that he sells bad animals, but I just want everyone to be aware and at least cautious if he does try to sell snakes to them.

[Reinz]

He sells Ball Pythons and Retics

Not hardly an elaboration. I think you should go back and re-read Deb's post, sloooowwwlly.

[Reinz]

Understandable I'm not sure how to prove that he sells bad animals, but I just want everyone to be aware and at least cautious if he does try to sell snakes to them.

Still very vague, just state your FACTS and your case MAY be more believable.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Understandable I'm not sure how to prove that he sells bad animals, but I just want everyone to be aware and at least cautious if he does try to sell snakes to them.

Let's see how about details of your transaction, what animals were bought, which one where sick, vet reports, picture of the deceased animal etc.....if I was sold a sick or dying animal trust me I would have all that handy I would also have proof of the communication that transpired (because I am sure after you were sold sick animals there must have been some kind of communication), without that sadly it's just hearsay especially when you are pretty new to a community.

Trust me I have been making my share of threads when it comes to shady people and there is nothing I like better than weed out the bad seeds but in this case how do I know?

[Reinz]

Let's see how about details of your transaction, what animals were bought, which one where sick, vet reports, picture of the deceased animal etc.....if I was sold a sick or dying animal trust me I would have all that handy I would also have proof of the communication that transpired (because I am sure after you were sold sick animals there must have been some kind of communication), without that sadly it's just hearsay especially when you are pretty new to a community.

Trust me I have been making my share of threads when it comes to shady people and there is nothing I like better than weed out the bad seeds but in this case how do I know?

Nice hand-holding Deb!

[bcr229]

For a start, I'm sure there are a lot of guys named "Kevin Smith" in Buffalo, NY. How about an email address or Facebok page so we know which one you're talking about?

Where does he advertise? Here, Facebook groups (if so which ones?), Kingsnake, FaunaClassifieds, or ?

If he's a member of this forum or other forums, what is his screen name?

What snakes did you buy? How many? How long ago? How long did you have them before they showed signs of illness or they died?

Did you take the snakes to a vet? If so, what was the diagnosis and treatment?

If they died did you have a necropsy done? If so what were the results?

[PitOnTheProwl]

Understandable I'm not sure how to prove that he sells bad animals, but I just want everyone to be aware and at least cautious if he does try to sell snakes to them.

Kind of making this swing the wrong way there huh?
More turning into a "Shouldn't sell to you" post.