Heat rocks

[Bcycling]

Ok, so I was watching a video on YouTube of one of the most famous ball breeders. He was talking with some kids about a ball python setup and had the kids put a ball in a big glass enclosure with day and night lights and a heat rock. What does everyone think of this procedure?

[PitOnTheProwl]

Did you listen to him talking about changing the temperatures?
I almost took your hook till I looked into it a little further because I wanted to question this too.

http://www.zoomed.com/db/products/En...D=2&SearchID=1

Evidently some companies are getting smarter and the heat rock has regulation on it.
Still up to the user to check that it is properly set.

[Bcycling]

Still, it's not on a thermostats as you can't place a probe on them. It's playing with danger. Plus he doesn't plug that particular one. Some kid watches the video, goes to some smaller expo and finds a guy selling a 5 buck used head rock. To me it's still a nightmare waiting to happen. There are enough errors with the cheap thermostats and that's on a rhetrostat. How long until we start hearing about burbs on those rocks? Not just that but a humid hide, which is fine, but with a light on non stop and a screen top do you really think the snake would live a long healthy life like he says?

[PitOnTheProwl]

Still, it's not on a thermostats as you can't place a probe on them. It's playing with danger. Plus he doesn't plug that particular one. Some kid watches the video, goes to some smaller expo and finds a guy selling a 5 buck used head rock. To me it's still a nightmare waiting to happen. There are enough errors with the cheap thermostats and that's on a rhetrostat. How long until we start hearing about burbs on those rocks? Not just that but a humid hide, which is fine, but with a light on non stop and a screen top do you really think the snake would live a long healthy life like he says?

Yes a thermostat is what "we" recommend but a rheostat is also recommended.
You might want to "WATCH" the video again and have a look at 5.02 and you would see the rheostat.
You are also past the point of hearing about burns. I have been dealing with them here for half a decade.
Also dealing with people that don't know how to set up any thermostat.
Its not that hard to set up regulated heat, too many people try to over complicate it.

[Bcycling]

Ok I watched it again. At 5:02 the snake is moving around and they are not discussing the heat. Why would he recommend that setup knowing the market is flooded with rocks that will burn snakes. Also, the setup seems off with lights and just a humid hide. I know that rock is regulated but he states to set it on high which would mean all the way up. I am not trying to bash him, actually met the guy on a few occasions and he is a super good guy that will take the time and talk to anyone. Actually talked to my daughter for over 15 minutes once on her breeding plans. I just wonder why he would basically recommend a setup like that. It doesn't seem like ideal environment to me and I wanted to know what other thought of the setup and heat rocks, regulated or not. When I had balls 25 years ago it was what we used, but we learned fast they caused problems and got rid of them. Yes, I produced a few captive clutches from wild caught snakes back then, and have been out of it for a long time, but that set up seems a step back in time.

[Jabberwocky Dragons]

Still, it's not on a thermostats as you can't place a probe on them. It's playing with danger. Plus he doesn't plug that particular one. Some kid watches the video, goes to some smaller expo and finds a guy selling a 5 buck used head rock. To me it's still a nightmare waiting to happen. There are enough errors with the cheap thermostats and that's on a rhetrostat. How long until we start hearing about burbs on those rocks? Not just that but a humid hide, which is fine, but with a light on non stop and a screen top do you really think the snake would live a long healthy life like he says?

I've been seeing this more often, especially when ball keepers interact with keepers of other species.

Let's be clear, thermostats are recommended for controlling heat tape in a tub. Precise control is needed because of the contained environment. At the best case, a poorly regulated heat tape will cause the animal to overheat and become ill without a cool spot to escape too. Worst case is the poorly regulated heat tape causes a catastrophic meltdown, destroying the rack, and killing multiple animals.

Using the t-stat for other applications is still a great idea, but it doesn't have the same importance of using it with heat tape in a confined tub. Other applications can use a less reliable rheostat with substantially less risk.

[Ax01]

what vid are u guys referring to? i would like to see it.

[Bcycling]

Sorry I can't link it. I had linked it but was told that it violates terms. People thought I was trying to give the guy a hard time, while in reality I was just trying to understand why he thought that was a good setup. I by no means know it all, but his suggestions just seemed off to me.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

what vid are u guys referring to? i would like to see it.

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[Lady mkrj58]

I bought several of those reostats and I had problems with them even on low the UTH were way way to hot I was real fast to get rid of those in use and replaced them with Thermostats
Im not bad mouthing a product just telling my experience its a product I can't trust. I could not even hold my hand on the glass it was way to hot.

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