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I'm not that familiar with identifying morphs in situations like this, but first thing I thought when I saw it was pewter or super pastel?
I'm also wondering what males she's been exposed to, or if there could be hidden genes in them
1.0 Pastel Red Axanthic - Damon
0.1 Pastel Het Red Axanthic - Katerina
0.1 Fire
0.1 Super Pastel Lesser
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Looks like that will be the Null allele. A heterozygous pastel with homozygous phenotype. Interesting! Hold back if you can.
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Re: I need your help! First time breeding Ball Pythons
 Originally Posted by Felidae
Looks like that will be the Null allele. A heterozygous pastel with homozygous phenotype. Interesting! Hold back if you can.
Could you explain what that is/means? I'm not familiar with what exactly all that means, what it is and what it makes and all.
1.0 Pastel Red Axanthic - Damon
0.1 Pastel Het Red Axanthic - Katerina
0.1 Fire
0.1 Super Pastel Lesser
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I'm really not someone who you call expert in that forum, and my English is pretty bad, but I'll try what I can. It not means that my theory true for your case, but I see normal spider and normal pastel parents and that drives me there.
In rare occasions, most likely with incomplete dominant morphs a hatchling can be phenotypically (in visual appearance) homozygous (called super form), when genotypically just heterozygous. Your small one looks like super pastel for me. For the homozygous form you need 2 copies of the same gene in the same allele, what is impossible, if just one of the parents carries the pastel gene. The explication for that syndrome that you have only one copy of the gene in an allele, but the other side nothing (something with protein.. I forgot..). That gene express himself to the empty side. When snakes with that syndrome bred, they acts completely like a normal heterozygous form, in your case like a pastel, not like a super pastel.
Last edited by Felidae; 12-24-2015 at 07:24 PM.
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Let's see it after a shed or two, but I would say for now that it's a ridiculously blushed out pastel that may darken/color up more with a shed or two.
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0.1 Abigail - Spider het SK Axanthic
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