My new irian jaya carpet python

[DennisM]

When I say they are the same, I'm not making the implication that there is no difference between localities, though research points to jungles and coastals sharing identical DNA which could make one come to the conclusion that a jungle is actually a smaller locale of coastal. Once again the study and research is ongoing here.

I should have maybe specified that in captivity, without locality data carpets are pretty much the same snake. When people add IJ to coastal and cross diamond into the mix and originally had a cross of some unknown combo you wind up with a carpet python, and when that happens, a carpet is a carpet. Not even Nick Mutton was able to tell me what my coastal was crossed with when I asked and sent him several pictures. It's a carpet python, was the only conclusion we could come to. There was some speculation as to what was possibly mixed in but certainly nothing was conclusive. Based on that, there is nothing different at all about the care or habits of mine verses any other type carpet python sans a pure diamond.

Maybe that helps with the point I was making about being the same in general.

agreed, a carpet is a carpet once the mixing begins, after all we are talking morelia spilota subspecies. upon mixing it's just morelia spilota.

[DennisM]

I think all morelia spilota are great, they're my favorite snake (it's ok BP.net, BPs are next on my list ). sometimes the crossings can be problematic as they can be impossible to identify (if Nick Mutton can't ID it we're probably out of luck) yet are marketed as this or that. Other than being a carpet python, I don't know what the OP's snake is and probably its breeder doesn't really know either. I'm pretty sure it's not a pure IJ as generally recognized by the hobby. The striping indicates coastal, the side blotches hint at a possible diamond influence (though obviously not the classic pattern that give the diamond its common name, I've seen this pattern on a few diamond crosses). All that matters is that the snake is in good hands, appreciated for being an awesome animal and it's offspring are acknowledged as "IJ something".

[Gio]

I think all morelia spilota are great, they're my favorite snake (it's ok BP.net, BPs are next on my list ). sometimes the crossings can be problematic as they can be impossible to identify (if Nick Mutton can't ID it we're probably out of luck) yet are marketed as this or that. Other than being a carpet python, I don't know what the OP's snake is and probably its breeder doesn't really know either. I'm pretty sure it's not a pure IJ as generally recognized by the hobby. The striping indicates coastal, the side blotches hint at a possible diamond influence (though obviously not the classic pattern that give the diamond its common name, I've seen this pattern on a few diamond crosses). All that matters is that the snake is in good hands, appreciated for being an awesome animal and it's offspring are acknowledged as "IJ something".

I think probably because of certain laws in Australia and maybe a genuine, lack of distinction between the localities early on by "importers", is why we see the cross/mix tag more than we should. That coupled with the race to produce the most colorful morphs probably made true localities more rare than some highly sought after morphs here in the US.

I am very much into locality boa constrictors. I favor anything from a locality over any morph and I prefer "Mother Nature" colors and patterns. Mixing BCC and BCI is taboo to me and many locality breeders seem to hold this same view and keep locality stock separate and pure. I don't see it as often with carpets, and I am not sure if I've ever heard about it in the royal python world. It probably warrants some study as I'm sure there are subtle differences in royals from certain areas.

This is my coastal.

The parents look nothing like her in color or pattern. Both parents resemble "typical" coastal carpets with the mother being around 10 feet long and the father around 8 feet. One of the parents does exhibit some possible diamond traits according to Nick Mutton,

I remember when I first posted her early pictures here people were swearing she was a jungle, but if you have a look at these poor quality photos of the parents, you can see what I'm talking about.






Those two "dirty" colored snakes produced my girl.

I'm sure she'll brown out with more time but she has held decent coloring and will be 3 years old in the spring.

The book I keep mentioning states even within a clutch, the variation between siblings can be surprising.

Anyhow, the O/P does in fact have a very pretty snake and will certainly enjoy it.

Good discussion!

[Artemisace]

I love the discussion that has popped up in this thread I've learned quite a bit. Here are some more pics of my little buddy to share with you guys.




Sorry for the bad lighting in those
And here's him taking a rat pink for me.



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[Reinz]

He's looking good!

Has the nippyness decreased yet?

[Artemisace]

He's looking good!

Has the nippyness decreased yet?

A little, had to get him water last night and since he's still digesting he's a little nippy at the moment. But before that he's been calming down quite a bit.

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[Reinz]

A little, had to get him water last night and since he's still digesting he's a little nippy at the moment. But before that he's been calming down quite a bit.

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That's great!

Sounds like he coming along quite well.

[Artemisace]

That's great!

Sounds like he coming along quite well.

He's doing quite well and I'm definitely hooked. He's always sitting on top of his hide looking around it's so cool

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[EL-Ziggy]

That's one exceptional looking IJ you have there Art.

[Artemisace]

That's one exceptional looking IJ you have there Art.

Thank you, he's a great little guy and can't wait for him to put on some size.

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