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Thread: Newest Z Combos

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    Newest Z Combos

    Just had a clutch of Citrus Pastel Lesser Platinum Z x Black Pastel hatch this morning. Can't wait to see these little ones shed and start eating.


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    Okay what is the "Z" and what are is traits?

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    Re: Newest Z Combos

    Quote Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    Okay what is the "Z" and what are is traits?
    I did a write up about it on my website, www.PacificCoastReptiles.com, under "Projects". It's a gene I've been working on for a while now. It's co-dominant, but I'm still working on exploring the genetics and seeing what it does in combinations with other morphs. The coolest thing it's made so far is the Super Z Lesser:



    I've haven't done much breeding Black Pastel into other morphs yet. Does anyone have any opinions as to whether I've made a Pewter Z, or does anyone see Lesser in that one neat looking baby?

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    That Lesser Z is smoking!!
    Thank you by the way.
    Wish more people would take the time you did there.
    Yours is not subtle either but there are so many claimed "new" genes with out much explanation other than look at it LoL

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    Re: Newest Z Combos

    That's an amazing co-dom. A lot of potential there!

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    1.0 Banana Siagi (Butters) - 1.0 GHI Chocolate Het Ghost York - 1.0 Mystic Potion Sarge - 1.0 Pied ​Maine - 1.0 Normal Tucker - 1.0 Huffman ​Lopez
    1.0 Black Pastel Mojave Yellow Belly Church - 1.0 VPI Axanthic Spider Ozpin- Butter Hypo ​Jaune

    0.1 Super Black Pastel Texas - 0.1 Humble Bee CT - 0.1 Pied Carolina - 0.1 Killer Bee Sheila - 0.1 Black Pastel Ghost Pinstripe Coco - 0.1 Pastel Yang - 0.1 Spider Nora - 0.2 Lesser Huffman Pyrrha/FILSS
    0.1 Pastel Yellow Belly Sally - 0.1 Pastel Orange Ghost Kaikaina - 0.1 VPI Axanthic Cinder - 0.1 Banana Cinnamon Kimball - 0.1 Shatter Spider​ Octavia - 0.1 The Red Gene Lemons

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    Re: Newest Z Combos

    The super has a cool look to it, awesome project you have going there and a nice write up with lots of pics!
    1.0 Banana Fire Spider 1.0 Black Pastel Clown (Liesen)
    0.1 Banana
    0.1 BEL Butter Mohave
    0.1 Cinnamon
    0.1 Clown
    0.1 Pastel Leopard het pied pos het clown

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    Your first step in proving a new incomplete dominant gene should be to isolate the super form alone. I'm not seeing enough here to warrant a claim. Looks like a cool variation of a lesser cinnamon/black pastel. I can name you about a dozen breeders claiming new genes that have skipped to the last step first, which is naming it and announcing it. I hope you prove me wrong.
    0.1 Firefly Lesser
    1.1 Firefly Het Pied
    0.1 Lesser
    0.1 Vanilla Cream
    0.1 Flame Pinstripe
    0.1 Black Pewter Ghost
    0.1 Pastel Calico Leopard het Pied
    0.1 Super Pastel Axanthic
    1.1 Piebald
    1.0 Superfly
    1.0 Mimosa
    1.1 Hypo Trans Bearded Dragons
    2.0 French Bulldogs
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    Re: Newest Z Combos

    Quote Originally Posted by BrianDallek View Post
    Your first step in proving a new incomplete dominant gene should be to isolate the super form alone. I'm not seeing enough here to warrant a claim. Looks like a cool variation of a lesser cinnamon/black pastel. I can name you about a dozen breeders claiming new genes that have skipped to the last step first, which is naming it and announcing it. I hope you prove me wrong.
    I'm pretty confident that the Lesser Super Z is just that because I've made Lesser Zs, Zs, Pastel Zs, and Lesser Pastel Zs from that same pairing. This is my third season making them and Zs have been made from two different sons with different females. I may find that some of the Zs from original Z to son that look really extreme may end up being Super Zs, but I want to grow them up and breed them before I make that claim. I'm not releasing any until I have a much better idea of what is going on here so this is just my fun project.
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