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    Re: Possible Hard Choice Concerning My BP

    Just like to say that i'm a final fantasy fan and realized one of your snakes name is Cloud Strife lol.. and my kingsnakes name is Draco.. My hunter on world of warcraft is Cloud his pet is Strife lol I dont list the Kingsnake and Gopher snake on my signature because this is a ball python forum.. anyways back on topic. i'd say dont give up on your baby! and dont give him up for adoption because someone who might know more isn't going to get him eating again just because that person knows more. its more about trying change. I realize your gonna move again.. but start holding him. maybe that will help..

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    Just like to say that i'm a final fantasy fan and realized one of your snakes name is Cloud Strife lol.. and my kingsnakes name is Draco.. My hunter on world of warcraft is Cloud his pet is Strife lol I dont list the Kingsnake and Gopher snake on my signature because this is a ball python forum.. anyways back on topic. i'd say dont give up on your baby! and dont give him up for adoption because someone who might know more isn't going to get him eating again just because that person knows more. its more about trying change. I realize your gonna move again.. but start holding him. maybe that will help..
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    I think you and him will both be fine. He doesn't look bad to me at all.

    If you say you're planning to move in a few weeks and will be there for awhile, I don't see the difference between that or sending him to live somewhere else.

    I would be more concerned with the fact that interstate transport of retics will likely be prohibited by the time you make the move out of state.

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    Re: Possible Hard Choice Concerning My BP

    Quote Originally Posted by CloudtheBoa View Post
    He was raised on rats, then I used mice to get him eating again. He ate mice for 8 months before I tried rats again. He ate a mouse and then a rat in one feeding and nothing since then.

    He was fed bi-weekly.


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    I would not try "bi-weekly" for an adult. Try giving him a week or 2 before feeding again. Always seems to work for me. Plus BP's are known to go off feed for months at a time. Just give it some time and see if that works.

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    Our girl stella is very picky with her food... like we have to feed her a few sizes under what she is supposed to be getting, she gets about 4 mice instead of the small rat she should be on... try sticking with the mice since that was working till you tried switching to rats.

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    Re: Possible Hard Choice Concerning My BP

    Quote Originally Posted by CloudtheBoa View Post
    His fasts alone don't worry me, I've learned to deal with them however irritating they may be. It's the sudden increase in weight loss that's giving me a red flag. He shouldn't have lost 10% of his weight in only 3 months.
    Are you sure he didn't poo or pee out some urates? Did he shed or anything?

    Your snake looks okay to me. It sounds like you're just feeding FT and will be trying live. I'm sure when you offer live he'll be fine.

    Have you tried anything besides rats or mice? Some of them like things like chicks and/or quails. I've had a couple on fasts who I offered an FT chick to and it got them going again.

    Try something different like a FT chick. Then if that doesn't work, do live for a few months to get him going again and gaining some weight.

    I definitely wouldn't rehome him yet. He's not doing terrible at all. You clearly are attached to him, and honestly, you're probably far more frustrated and affected than he is by this.
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    It is okay to use pine bedding for snakes.
    It is okay to feed live food to snakes.

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    Re: Possible Hard Choice Concerning My BP

    Go live! Try a mouse or small rat first, and then move up from there. The killer instinct might take a little while to kick in - Ginger needed 20 - 30 minutes to realize that she was going to kill her food, after only knowing f/t.


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    Re: Possible Hard Choice Concerning My BP

    Just remember, once your snake eats live, it can be quite a challenge getting him/her back to frozen/thawed. Make sure you have an available source of live rats near you.


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    Re: Possible Hard Choice Concerning My BP

    Quote Originally Posted by tbowman View Post
    I think you and him will both be fine. He doesn't look bad to me at all.

    If you say you're planning to move in a few weeks and will be there for awhile, I don't see the difference between that or sending him to live somewhere else.

    I would be more concerned with the fact that interstate transport of retics will likely be prohibited by the time you make the move out of state.
    I'm hoping by then they'll be removed, but of they aren't then I'll find a place to live here. It's not happening any time soon. There are also breeders that are allowed to ship out of state so maybe I could find one if it comes to that and see if they'll ship her to my new place. Then again, I'm not sure if those exceptions are only temporary.

    Quote Originally Posted by berriosderick View Post
    I would not try "bi-weekly" for an adult. Try giving him a week or 2 before feeding again. Always seems to work for me. Plus BP's are known to go off feed for months at a time. Just give it some time and see if that works.

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    That's what bi-weekly is, he was fed every 2 weeks. I offer food to him on a variety of weekly and bi-weekly schedules now that he's fasting. I'm trying just mice at the moment, but he just isn't interested. He's losing so much weight I don't feel comfortable just waiting him out.

    Quote Originally Posted by 200xth View Post
    Are you sure he didn't poo or pee out some urates? Did he shed or anything?

    Your snake looks okay to me. It sounds like you're just feeding FT and will be trying live. I'm sure when you offer live he'll be fine.

    Have you tried anything besides rats or mice? Some of them like things like chicks and/or quails. I've had a couple on fasts who I offered an FT chick to and it got them going again.

    Try something different like a FT chick. Then if that doesn't work, do live for a few months to get him going again and gaining some weight.

    I definitely wouldn't rehome him yet. He's not doing terrible at all. You clearly are attached to him, and honestly, you're probably far more frustrated and affected than he is by this.
    Yes I haven't seen so much as a urate in a few weeks. He's been clear of feces for awhile now. On top of that, he's losing visible body tone which is why I weighed him last night, he looked even worse than at the beginning of the month. He last shed July 5, he's not due for one for at least another month or two, he only sheds every 3-4 months.

    No I did have some frozen chickens but they died from a possible bacterial infection so I didn't feel comfortable feeding them. I've only tried mice and rats so far.


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    Re: Possible Hard Choice Concerning My BP

    Quote Originally Posted by pbyeerts View Post
    Just remember, once your snake eats live, it can be quite a challenge getting him/her back to frozen/thawed. Make sure you have an available source of live rats near you.


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    Oh trust me I know this. He was raised on live for 5-6 years, and it took me 1.5 years to get him to switch to f/t.


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    Oh boy......


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