Sales with breeding clauses attached?

[Monty's_Mom]

I do wonder if the BP breeders sell individuals with breeding clauses in a sales agreement. The clause could be a reduced price if future breeding will be free or reduced stud fees. Do breeders allow their males to breed with other collections for a stud fee? Does anybody lease a female for breeding?

This may be for the more elite breeders but have sales ever had a breeding restriction on them? It may not be a complete ban but perhaps somebody buys an exceptional female and the original owner/seller may have a clause that says you may only breed to a certain male/morph for a pre-determined number of clutches.

[AllieKin]

I have never seen anyone limit the number or type of breedings you can do with a BP after you purchase it.

However, I did have someone interested in using one of my males as a stud, once. Ended up I did not have what he wanted after all. I have no idea if that is normal or not.

[anicatgirl]

This sounds weird to me. And beside that it would be like, completely non enforceable.

[Artemisace]

That would be like buying ice cream and the store saying you can't put toppings on it. How will they know? That would kill buying from that particular person for me.

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[devildog_dk]

Doesn't seem likely at all considering a morph's market value is solely determined by it's breeding capability...

[Monty's_Mom]

Some clauses can be hard to enforce, some may require a small claims court to resolve. I do know that for dogs and horses, this is common. I am fairly sure that well connected breeders will have a hand shake deal in place for this.... makes sense right?

Due to the honest infancy of morph breeding, this could help or bankrupt. Keep the genetics to yourself and hope nobody else managed to breed them. Or, you can manage the genetics of the snakes you may sell with a contract and have the greatest chance of having a very diverse genetic pool to maintain the top sellers and breed for the next bestest.

[Monty's_Mom]

Doesn't seem likely at all considering a morph's market value is solely determined by it's breeding capability...

That is a big part of my wondering. A great new morph may be sold to someone who just loves the looks and potential for their own collection. Perhaps someone can buy a female and the seller has to have access and all/some hatchlings for the first 2-3 breedings. After that, the buyer can breed to whatever/whenever.

Some agreements can say that only a certain morph approved by the seller can be bred to that snake. Some agreements can say that the seller has first pick of the clutch(es).

[dr del]

Hi,

The only time I have seen something similar was when the morph or individual snake had a known problem that made breeding it a risk.

People do enter into breeding loans from time to time - but it requires serious though regarding quarantine, who gets what, who is responsible for any injuries/ illness etc.

[anicatgirl]

Well yeah, but I would think for dogs and such it would be easier to control slightly... IDK. If you want to sell them to not be bred they just fix them. Can't really do that with snakes. Or if you can, I don't want to know, because I would have to kill people

[hungba]

I don't know but it sounds like a total pain in the butt.