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    Re: Question

    Quote Originally Posted by ECechoHO View Post
    I understand it's a DOMINANT GENE, there is always that "BUT" that comes into play, like BUT what if what made her was mated with a what it takes to make a successful pinstrip next time she mated..?? this world is full of BUTS and WHAT IFS.. just saying that's all...
    Do you mean like hets? You would have to specifically breed her to a pinstripe to create pinstripes. The term dominant means it is what it is, even if one of her parents was a pinstripe.

    Pinstripe x normal = 50% normals, 50% pinstripes statistically.

    Yours would still just be a normal.

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    Re: Question

    Quote Originally Posted by ECechoHO View Post
    NO DOUBT, always worth a TRY to see what happens.. would be surprised what COULD happen in the ANIMAL world..
    Many surprising things have happened with ball pythons while the genetics were being slowly uncovered.

    But why re-invent the wheel starting with a triangle if other people already have a good idea that has held true through many, many breedings.

    What we call a pinstripe is a specific mutation of a specific gene at a precise location. You have a greater probability of spontaneously turning into a doughnut through random quantum fluctuations than getting a pinstripe by breeding two normals. not really but it sounded funny
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    Re: Question

    Def needs to do some more research

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    i switched up and realized that this would be my virgin(first) time breeding so im gonna roll with a 100% het male, with my normal female and see what comes out..the next big thing i have to worry about s the cool down period to get the female in the mood to breed, thats my main problem right there, i live in a studio apartment so i can't switch a room to be the isolator cool down room, that's another point breaker in my quest to breed these snakes

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    Question

    Het Male x Normal = Possible hets which sell for the same price as normal.

    Also BP do not have to be cooled down and if you do 76/80 is plenty enough.


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    Re: Question

    We never cool down ours

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    Re: Question

    The topic just popped up, I read twice the whole, but I still understand nothing. Or what I understand is that: You want to breed your 1.1 normals together to maybe get pinstripe offsprings (and money for it to upgrade your collection), cause the female have an interesting patter what reminds you pinstripe? After to understand that maybe not works, you want to put your normal female with a hetero (for ?) male to see if coming out something (morph) from that pairing?
    If is that, try to do a deeper research about genetics. When you'll understand, it's easy. I don't know if someone already posted the link, but.. http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...Basic-Genetics

    Don't need to cool them for. Many breeders have success without cycling, all year round.

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    Re: Question

    Quote Originally Posted by ECechoHO View Post
    In the snake world, does it matter if the two im trying to mate are siblings..??
    To answer the original question, it doesn't matter if you breed ANY species siblings. Some species tend to have on average more negative traits than others, human being the most famous. On average humans have a lot of screwed up genes, so it's not the greatest idea to be hooking up with family statistically. However ball pythons do not appear to have too many negative traits on average, so it is generally accepted as fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by ECechoHO View Post
    this been a project of mine for years, to see what kinda morph i could eventually START out with that a pair of NORMS could produce if any
    Quote Originally Posted by ECechoHO View Post
    .what im trying to see is will my normal female produce any pinstripes because from what i see she has a very long stripe on her normal pattern, i also want my beginners to contribute to any MORPH i can get..
    Quote Originally Posted by ECechoHO View Post
    I understand it's a DOMINANT GENE, there is always that "BUT" that comes into play, like BUT what if what made her was mated with a what it takes to make a successful pinstrip next time she mated..?? this world is full of BUTS and WHAT IFS.. just saying that's all...
    Quote Originally Posted by ECechoHO View Post
    NO DOUBT, always worth a TRY to see what happens.. would be surprised what COULD happen in the ANIMAL world..
    Quote Originally Posted by ECechoHO View Post
    i switched up and realized that this would be my virgin(first) time breeding so im gonna roll with a 100% het male, with my normal female and see what comes out..
    You seem to have misunderstanding of genetics and also the frequency of mutation. I would spend way too much time commenting on all of those, so all I will say is:

    Please read this:
    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...Basic-Genetics
    and do research on this:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation_rate

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    Re: Question

    Get the book the complete ball python by kevin mccurley

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