Super Fire, Super Fire Spider, Super Fire Pastel etc...

[Crestiezoo]

Ive been trawling the internet for pictures of any morph combinations that include super fire, and I am drawing a blank.

I know that Super fires, (Black Eyed Lucy's) are prodominantly white with black eyes, but when you add pastel, spider or pinstripe (as well as an aditional fire gene) for example into a mix will offspring show traits of the other visual morphs? Or again will they just remain white?

Thanks

[ajmreptiles]

I'm not sure and will interesting to test the theory in a couple years. Since super fires often have patches of orange or yellow to them, maybe you can get some pattern in them from the spider or pinstripe in those patches.

[Crestiezoo]

I'm not sure and will interesting to test the theory in a couple years. Since super fires often have patches of orange or yellow to them, maybe you can get some pattern in them from the spider or pinstripe in those patches.

Thats what I am thinking... I am sure it has been done many times before, I just can't seem to locate pictorial examples

[ajmreptiles]

The only combo picture I've seen involving a super fire is a super fire orange dream, which is a white snake with a light orange dorsal stripe


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[Crestiezoo]

The only combo picture I've seen involving a super fire is a super fire orange dream, which is a white snake with a light orange dorsal stripe


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I bet that was stunning!

[Pyrate81]

Super fires do show some spotty color and pattern. My guess is you wouldn't see patterns from morphs in the super fire unless you put it under a black light which is how some people check their super lesser/mojave morphs.

[Crestiezoo]

Thanks. Perhaps its not the morph I want to explore :/ I have read into them a little more an in many cases additional visual genes aren't visible even under a black light. So the only sure fire way to know is to keep it, grow it on and breed it.

[John1982]

Thanks. Perhaps its not the morph I want to explore :/ I have read into them a little more an in many cases additional visual genes aren't visible even under a black light. So the only sure fire way to know is to keep it, grow it on and breed it.

Or work with homozygous stuff. Superfly x Superfly for instance, everything hatched will be at least super pastel even if masked by super fire.

[BrianDallek]

I'm breeding my Superfly male to a vanilla cream (fire x vanilla) and a fire pinstripe....next season. I would think pattern genes like pinstripe or spider would be the most likely to show on a BlackEL. My advice to all new breeders is focus mostly on recessive genes with a few choice examples of co-doms/doms.

[therichdad]

I am curious about this though, I saw in google a super fire enchi and it looks great..
Will this work aswell with spider/pinstripe?
Is it because Enchi is a co-dom why it worked ?