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Suggestions on what pieds to breed someday?
Someday I want to start breeding ball pythons, and I'd love to start with piebalds as I adore them to bits, but I'm unsure which two or three would be the best to start with. I hear a few people mention ones with more than two genes (such as pie, spider, and pastel all in one) are better to start with so I started looking into ones like that. There are so many pretty ones I'm simply not sure which to look into first!
I've been researching ball pythons themselves for over a year now, but when it comes to morphs and gene combinations I'm still very new to everything. Does anyone here have preferences/suggestions? Thank you!
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Re: Suggestions on what pieds to breed someday?
 Originally Posted by AlbinoBull
Someday I want to start breeding ball pythons, and I'd love to start with piebalds as I adore them to bits, but I'm unsure which two or three would be the best to start with. I hear a few people mention ones with more than two genes (such as pie, spider, and pastel all in one) are better to start with so I started looking into ones like that. There are so many pretty ones I'm simply not sure which to look into first!
I've been researching ball pythons themselves for over a year now, but when it comes to morphs and gene combinations I'm still very new to everything. Does anyone here have preferences/suggestions? Thank you! 
Start with the 3 you like the most!
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spider pied (spied) give you a white snake with colour only on the head, some people love that, personally i prefer more colour, a 50/50 snake. pastel is an underrated gene that improves almost everything it is put with but pastels vary enormously in quality.
my next purchase will be a mojave het pied female. then i can breed my own mojave pied, also known as white gold.
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Panda pied, spied, and super pastel pied are nice. Can't go wrong with any pied combo except the Lesser pied in my OP. Lesserpied is all white and comes out with small eyes.
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Re: Suggestions on what pieds to breed someday?
 Originally Posted by Emilio
Panda pied, spied, and super pastel pied are nice. Can't go wrong with any pied combo except the Lesser pied in my OP. Lesserpied is all white and comes out with small eyes.
I beg to differ on the lesser pied. Mine is one of my favorite snakes. It is the brightest white combo you can get and mine has perfect eyes.

Family:
0.1 Wife
3.1 Kids
Balls:
1.0 Lesser Pied, 1.0 VPI Snow, 1.0 Super Pastel Mojave, 1.1 Albino het VPI Axanthic G-Stripe, 1.0 Albino Black Pastel, 2.2 Triple het VPI Axanthic/Albino/Pied, 1.1 Triple het VPI Axanthic/Albino/G-Stripe, 0.1 Pastel BEL(Mojave/Lesser), 0.1 Sterling Mojave, 0.2 Pied, 0.2 Kingpin het Pied, 0.1 Cinnamon Lesser het Pied, 0.2 Clown, 0.1 Citrus Pewter Calico, 0.1 Pastel Mystic, 0.1 Mystic, 0.2 Cinnapin, 0.1 VPI Axanthic G-Stripe, 0.1 G-Stripe het Albino, 0.1 G-Stripe, 0.1 Pewter, 0.1 Lesser, 0.2 Spider ph Pied, 0.1 Spotnose ph Pied, 0.1 Spinner, 0.1 Black Pastel, 0.1 Normal
Other:
1.0 Husky
0.1 Husky/Lab
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Re: Suggestions on what pieds to breed someday?
 Originally Posted by Jay Mechtly
I beg to differ on the lesser pied. Mine is one of my favorite snakes. It is the brightest white combo you can get and mine has perfect eyes.

Very jealous of that clutch you hatched out last season. A nice looking snake. Great odds Jay!!
The only drawback I see on the Lesser Pied is that you don't know 100% if you hit another morph on them until you prove them out.
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Re: Suggestions on what pieds to breed someday?
This guy was hatched last year by John Marker.
He is however making me some great clutches for me this year!
Family:
0.1 Wife
3.1 Kids
Balls:
1.0 Lesser Pied, 1.0 VPI Snow, 1.0 Super Pastel Mojave, 1.1 Albino het VPI Axanthic G-Stripe, 1.0 Albino Black Pastel, 2.2 Triple het VPI Axanthic/Albino/Pied, 1.1 Triple het VPI Axanthic/Albino/G-Stripe, 0.1 Pastel BEL(Mojave/Lesser), 0.1 Sterling Mojave, 0.2 Pied, 0.2 Kingpin het Pied, 0.1 Cinnamon Lesser het Pied, 0.2 Clown, 0.1 Citrus Pewter Calico, 0.1 Pastel Mystic, 0.1 Mystic, 0.2 Cinnapin, 0.1 VPI Axanthic G-Stripe, 0.1 G-Stripe het Albino, 0.1 G-Stripe, 0.1 Pewter, 0.1 Lesser, 0.2 Spider ph Pied, 0.1 Spotnose ph Pied, 0.1 Spinner, 0.1 Black Pastel, 0.1 Normal
Other:
1.0 Husky
0.1 Husky/Lab
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Sorry, I have been busy with work lately! That lesser pied is gorgeous! Another question which I should have asked earlier is if you all know any great breeders that have pieds rather often or even specialize in them, so to speak. A lot of the breeders I check out either have no pieds, or are only the usual pieds. I love the typical pieds, but the multi-gene ones are so beautiful!
The "pumpkin pied" or yellow belly pieds are very pretty, as are the panda, enichi leopard, and enichi firefly pieds. Any suggestions on breeders to look into? Or further suggestions on snakes/combos that can be done with those? Thank you all for your help!
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I'm a big fan of fire pieds and dreamcicles (lavender pied)
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