help me id this morph

[marvint]

this is from a Od poss het toffee to an albino
I need your opinions if this is an Orange dream. thanks
poss od no.1
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poss od no.2
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[alan12013]

I'd think it's a nice Normal unless I saw it's siblings. It could be OD though, any comparison shots? I see that the color is kind of orange but the main thing it's missing is the flames with orange in them for the tell tale. Everything coming up from the belly has the white around it which is part of the pattern. I've never seen one in real life but I guess it should become slightly more apparent as it gets older. Nice snake either way

[Solarsoldier001]

Could be orange dream. At least I think it is but I don't have enough experience to say
That 100%


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[marvint]

Problem is there are no usual dark normals in this clutch to compare with. But compared to the normals in the other clutch they look really different. They are not as orange as the sire orange dream when it was a hatchling

[marvint]

More inputs please guys...:-)

[celixo]

Being that ODs are so similar to Normals this was really difficult. lol I'm gonna give the Yes on these being ODs. Reason #1 the clear graduation from belly on up is bright and has an orange hue to it. #2 Having flames would have made this an easy Yes or No so without them its really hard. Regardless, compared to very light normal female. She is 100% normal not het for anything, few flames & she has retained her color as shes gotten older. You can compare the 3 and see they are (in my opinion) Orange Dreams.

The first image is the closest to her color in person. This one is much darker but shes got some sweet blushing & a few flames.

[marvint]

comparison pic to a normal

[Bigfish1975]

I'd say OD. This was my first year producing them but they were pretty obvious. The color on this one and the cleanliness and reduction of pattern makes me think OD here too.

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I'd say OD. This was my first year producing them but they were pretty obvious. The color on this one and the cleanliness and reduction of pattern makes me think OD here too.

[marvint]

Thanks for the replies