Who can help me find out what Combo are my new hatchlings.

[Ioannis]

Hi , I am a little confused about what we prodused this year , and I need your experienced eye.

I started breeding a pair of Albino female x champagne male (Or I thought that this were correct because the sellers told me so)

I will show you the parents pictures and you will understand what I am talking about.

Female











Male











And out of this couple We have Got those offsprings





And here are my thoughts.

Is the Albino female , Albino Yellow belly?
Do you see Fire Gene in the female albino?
Is the Champagne hiding Yellow belly Too?
Champagne is obviously het Albino.(Red eyes in 2 hatchlings)

I believe that we have produced 0.0.1 Champagne Albino Ivory , 0.0.1 Ivory Albino (maybe champagne),and 0.0.1 Champagne Ivory Fire het Albino.

What do you think?

Do you have any photos from ball pythons looking like those?

Thank You ,and I am waiting for your answers

[Wes]

Look like albino champs to me. Heads look too yellow to be ivorys

[joebad976]

Yes what Wes said

[Ioannis]

They are not Albino champagnes.
Albino Champagne has white rings on the back.

This photo is from worldsofballpythons




I am considering Ivory , cause they have a yellow stripe on the back.

[TheSnakeEye]

I'm thinking just Albino Champ because I'm not seeing YB in the Albino or the Champ. But they do seem very clean for just being Albino Champs. Very interesting, congrats!

[Eric Alan]

One thing I've learned for sure is that actual animals are not carbon copies of their WOBP counterparts. Heck - just look at the three pictures on the WOBP page when you're looking at the Albino Champagne and tell me again about your ring on the back theory.

[Ioannis]

Ok Why I believe my albino has also yellow belly...

Here is why.








Please look at the marks at the belly and look also the back.(defused yellow)

Am I right?

Eric I believe that Albino champagne is a standard coloration everybody knows.

[Royal Hijinx]

Need to see the hatchlings post shed.

I just hatched a clutch where I was not sure if I hit 3 or 4 mutations, and it took the first shed to make it obvious I hit 4.

Post up nice clean shots POST shed (well lit, in focus, on a neutral background, etc...) and we can give you a better guess as to what you have there.

[Ioannis]

Ok Thank You .
I will wait for them to shed.

and I will upload more photos.

What about the het Albino?
Do you think it looks like it has Fire gene on it?

What we are talking about here are some more targeted guesses.
Obviously I will have to prove what those snakes are.

All the opinions are welcome.
And I thank all of you that took the time to reply to me.

[Eric Alan]

Eric I believe that Albino champagne is a standard coloration everybody knows.

I hear what you're saying, and I can understand your position. However, there are three people that posted before I did (whom I respect) who also believed them to be Albino Champagne. It doesn't look to be as standard as you say it is. While I'm not saying with 100% confidence that is what they are, I also don't believe you can say with confidence that that is what they aren't until they have at least shed out. Do you agree?

Either way, you have some nice looking worms there that I'd be excited to add to my own growing collection.