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    Re: Feeding f/t for the first time

    I wasn't asking to be beleaguered, I just needed to know when I should try again & I don't think that question has been answered yet. I know what I'm doing, whether it's in his cage or not. I know of plenty BPs that eat out of their enclosure.


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    Re: Feeding f/t for the first time

    First, give him a few more days. Trust me, my anxiety about my snakes eating has dropped considerably after being here long enough. Your snake will be fine waiting, it'll just (maybe) make him more inclined to eat next time.

    Next, go ahead and try feeding him in his,enclosure, you may have more success. Handling before feeding can stress them, and no one wants to deal with a feeding response when the smell of rat is still in the air. I used to feed in a separate container as well, but I had much better responses after I switched to feeding in the enclosure. They feel secure and can move themselves back into their hide when they are done eating, no need for your hands to get involved at all. You're more likely to get tagged moving from one spot to the other anyway.

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    Re: Feeding f/t for the first time

    Quote Originally Posted by goshelby View Post
    I don't want him associating my hand with food.
    Complete and total myth. Let me say that again, and let it sink in...Complete and total myth.


    Quote Originally Posted by goshelby View Post
    Everything that I've read says it's best to feed them in a separate tub or container so that they associate that container with food to avoid getting bit by him thinking my hand reaching into the tank is food.
    Well, it can't be EVERYTHING you've read, because you will have a hard time finding anyone here who thinks you need to feed in a separate enclosure. Complete and total myth.


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    I'm not going to feed him in his enclosure, I've read way too many books and articles and caresheets about how they will (or could, of course) mistake your hand for food.
    Ok, with all of your experience, riddle me this...if Ball Pythons have the ability to associate your hand with food, won't they start striking the dog crap out of your hand EVERYTIME you put your hand in there because they figure you MUST be getting ready to put them in their feeding tub?....and why wouldn't they associate your hand with food when you go to pull them OUT of the feeding tub, WHILE they are still in feeding mode?

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    Re: Feeding f/t for the first time

    You clearly don't get what I'm saying. When put in a separate container they will learn or figure out or whatever the heck you want to call it that that container is for food. That when you grab him & he is placed in a that same container after feeding day upon feeding day they will know thats what it's for. If he constanty sees you lowering down a rodent into his cage every feeding day he could get your hand mistaking for food. Never once did i say ALL BALL PYTHOND WILL DO THIS I just don't want to take the risk. But again, thank you all for never answering the question that I've like three times. & I tried feeding in his cage earlier too & he wanted nothing to do it. I even left it in there for a couple hours. Didn't work, so I'll try again next week. But thanks for the "great" advice. Don't try to talk down to me just because he's my first snake. I'm not stupid.


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    Re: Feeding f/t for the first time

    I just wanted to know if waking him up from his sleep could be a factor as to why he wouldn't eat & when to try again. & I didn't ask got an opinion over where I should feed him. Everyone does things differently that works for them. It's not like you've never heard of someone who feeds their Balls in a another tub just for feeding.


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    Re: Feeding f/t for the first time

    Quote Originally Posted by goshelby View Post
    I'm not stupid.
    No, just very clearly misguided in your thinking. But hey, you go ahead and do what you do. When your snake continues to refuse food because you keep removing him from his secure environment and throwing him in a strange looking and smelling box, just start another thread and we will again, offer you good advice....

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    Re: Feeding f/t for the first time

    I'm sorry, but you are having all of the same problems we all had when we started out, to some degree. We are doing our best to answer you, it's unfortunate that you aren't getting the answer you want.

    The answer you need is, he'll eat when he's ready. There is no quick dirty secret. You've had him a few weeks, he may go another 2 months without eating, or maybe he'll eat tomorrow. Respect on these forums will get you a long way, and that starts with listening to the people who have been through it. My pastel girl is my second snake, and she wouldn't take a meal on her own for 2 months. Now she's eating every 5 days like a champ. Give your snake time, don't handle him, and be patient.

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    Re: Feeding f/t for the first time

    Did you not see what I wrote? i tried feeding him in his enclousure, he wanted nothing to do with it. Im pretty sure it has nothing to do with where he is at this point. Just doesn't feel like eating today.


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    Re: Feeding f/t for the first time

    Respect? I'm pretty I'm the one getting attacked because I chose to feed him in a separte area. Because no ones done that before. (Sarcasm.) No ones disrespecting anyone, I'm just sinply saying I didn't ask if feeding him in a separate area will affect him. I know way to many people that do what I'm foing & their snake is fine. & it's not like I totally put off what everyones said, I tried doing it in his enclousure. He didnt want it. I'm not being obvilous to that,


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