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I got some ASFs that are are all black but have white on their bellies And a tiny diamond on their forehead. Then I have some that are completely black with no white at all and when I say black I mean dark dark dark black.
It is weird I had 1 male and 2 females in a colony each female gave me like 6 litters. And one of those female out of all the litters she had she once had a litter of 10 where 4 of them were like I said all dark with a white belly And a white diamond on forehead. First I thought it was resesive but those when they grew up and bred to regular ASFs they made more. And now I'm getting all solid black ones and the regular ASFs that everyone has are black and white instead of brown and white. Is that normal?
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Please share photos. If you have black ASFs, then you'd be the first person I know of to uncover the a/a gene.
I would definitely want to ship some of them here if you really do have black ones. I've heard a lot of people claim to have black, but they always end up being agouti, but I'm still hoping to see black one day!
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Yeah, ive never seen black asfs either!! Pics or it didnt happen!!
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ok i will go home get my camera and go to my friend place. they are breeding them at their place.. pics to come shortly....
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Re: ASF colour guide
Originally Posted by Orlandoflor
pics to come shortly....
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Re: ASF colour guide
Its not to late to post pics of those blacks
I thought I'd thrown a black one recently, but am just thinking its a really dark Agouti...
Time will tell!
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Yeah I haven't heard back from him. It's like the 5th time I've heard about 'black' ASFs, but I've never seen one.
We're bound to find a black one one day though, it's such a common gene in rodents that the possibility of it not existing is less likely than it existing and we just haven't found it.
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I got some new babies that are blackish their not all black but i will post them when i get of work. I have yet to see an all black one and until its proven they dont exist!!! ;D
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Yeah the babies always look so dark from 2 agouti parents. It can be deceptive to some people.
I also can't take any more people claiming to have albino genes either, lol. I haven't seen an albino ASF and I don't think they exist in captivity right now. PEW, sure, Albino, no. It would make white ASFs so much easier to make if we had an albino gene. :/
I WISH we had a black gene... Can you imagine how handsome headspot and saddle would be on a black ASF? -swoon-
There is no black gene in deer mice either, I don't think. There's a ton of other genes for deer mice, but no black. . . You'd think black is such a basic gene, but I guess we'll have to be patient!!
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Re: ASF colour guide
Originally Posted by Rhasputin
Yeah the babies always look so dark from 2 agouti parents. It can be deceptive to some people.
I also can't take any more people claiming to have albino genes either, lol. I haven't seen an albino ASF and I don't think they exist in captivity right now. PEW, sure, Albino, no. It would make white ASFs so much easier to make if we had an albino gene. :/
I WISH we had a black gene... Can you imagine how handsome headspot and saddle would be on a black ASF? -swoon-
There is no black gene in deer mice either, I don't think. There's a ton of other genes for deer mice, but no black. . . You'd think black is such a basic gene, but I guess we'll have to be patient!!
I will post mine tonight and you can tell me what you think. And while there not solid black the out of 5 litters in the past month their have only been two that have a skunk look to them. Also side note this might mean something to you, these two dark ones are also the only ones with black on their tails as well. Probably doesnt mean anything just thought it was different
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