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Re: Tank setup
Putting the Tstat probe IN the tank isn't "wrong," exactly. Not that Serpentmerchant said it was... The best reason for ME to put it outside is for cleaning purposes. I have my probe in the tank, and it's a pain to clean around it. It's secured to the bottom glass to keep it from losing contact with the floor. If you keep yours inside, secure it with silicone adhesive or hot glue. Just don't cover the actual probe tip.
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Sorry for getting off topic OP.
FROM WHAT I'VE READ (so no one critiques my subjective reply) is that if the tale tip is left on too long it can actually cut off circulation and fall off. Not to worry you, as it may take some time, but is still possible. Definitely keep an eye on it, but you may want to do what's called soaking or bathing, where you put the snake in a shallow and luke-warm/ambient temp water tub for about 20-30 mins. That can help soften the skin. You can also try having the snake slither through your hands, while you are holding a damp towel - so the snake is going through the damp towel. There are some products out that thay can help with shedding as well (I think one is called Shed-Eeze or something).
I think there are a few other ideas that I'm not aware of as well, but I know there are other posts out there if you are interested in what others have done.
I hope everything works out! Best of luck
Last edited by NH93; 02-02-2014 at 09:06 PM.
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Re: Tank setup
 Originally Posted by NH93
Not everyone does everything the same way, and there's more than one "right" way to do almost anything.
You are coming off a little strong, to me, in a battle of egos in which I refuse to take part in.
I truly thought this forum was to help people, such as this OP (and myself and yourself and many others)... not fight over who is right. Especially on what is largely subjective material. I am quite disappointed.
I find it interesting that in the same post you say there is more than one "right" way to do almost anything, yet are quite disappointed that Aaron's solid advice on this subjective material is different from yours...
Pointing out things that are right and things that are wrong is not a battle...it's an exchange of information.
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Re: Tank setup
 Originally Posted by Slim
I find it interesting that in the same post you say there is more than one "right" way to do almost anything, yet are quite disappointed that Aaron's solid advice on this subjective material is different from yours...
Pointing out things that are right and things that are wrong is not a battle...it's an exchange of information.
I am disappointed in the egos I find on this forum. I have never personally had a problem with anyone on this site (not saying there is one here), but when quoting a subjective comment and stating it as incorrect... to me that is not okay, and not a fair exchange of information, as you say. Not the first time this has happened with the same individual.
If my information is wrong - and I mean whole-heartedly wrong in that I've given bad advice - then I would completely understand. For safety of snake and owner, of course.
No need to start battles, though. Especially when it comes to matters of opinion.
Just my two sense. Since you quoted me I thought you might be interested in that as well.
But I am going to respectfully duck out of this thread as it has gone way off topic (again, I apologize OP). Any other issues, feel free to message me directly instead.
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Re: Tank setup
I haven't read this thread in its entirety, but, I would absolutely listen to anything SerpentMerchant has to say. He is a very smart guy, and has always been very patient and helpful with newbs. He is definitely not someone I would describe as having an ego. So maybe some people need to unbunch their panties...
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Re: Tank setup
I have to agree with Doolittle (or she'll make me eat her magic sixlets) on this one.
NH93 - I usually agree with you and I think you're really great about not getting riled or getting sucked into the nonsense that sometimes arises here. In a lot of ways I wish I were more like you (mostly in the hair category). This time though I think you're picking up a vibe that isn't there. Aaron doesn't have an ego at all. I don't think I've ever read a single post of his where he came off that way, and he's infinitely patient when it comes to explaining the same thing over and over in detail until it's understood.
You're both two of the "nicest" regular contributors on the forum. This is just a misunderstanding caused by not being able to gauge tone through text. If you were in the same room having this discussion, neither of you would pick up on ego or attitude, I'm sure.
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Re: Tank setup
 Originally Posted by Stark5050
Again thanks to everyone for the input. i have read all of them and put thopught into all of them. i have decided to keep the probe inside the tank umnderr the bedding right on top of where the UTH is located in order to KNOW what temp my BP is expiriencing should he decided to burrow down to the bottom. As for the air gap, yes I have my tank on a metal filing cabinet in my home office. It is not on the carpet. I am new to BPs and greatly appreciate all the input. All of your ideas have been considered.
On a side note, Clyde, my BP, is doing great, he is very active and I think he is settling in quiet well. he is not nearly as snappy or defensive as when i first got him and tends to move around i the tank much more often. He uses multiple hides but also has the favorite on the warm side of the tank. Once in a while I will find him basking near the ligth ontop of the wood i have placed in the tank, as well as on top of the rock. He just completed his first shed since ive had him and it came off 90% in one piece. He has a small piece on the end of his tail that i hope will come off today. Today is his feeding day and I will see how he does on that. He did reject the last two feedings, right before he started to turn grey and during his shed, but thats normal from what I have read.
Place the thermostat probe outside the tank and get a thermometer & place that probe on the inside where you have the thermostat probe now.
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Re: Tank setup
 Originally Posted by Stark5050
It it is a hygrometer and thermostat together, it runs the mini fogger and UTH. I will have it off the ground, I have it there for cleaning since he shed last night..
Still amazes me how many did not read that  
 Originally Posted by Stark5050
The water looks blue because the bottom of the bowl is painted blue. I have no idea why it just came with the tank. In the last pic you can see the waterbowl I made, but I didn't cure it completely and it cracked lol. When I tried to do a quick fix, it shattered lol. So I will be making a new bowl soon.
Save the trouble unless you just want to make one............. Walmart ceramic dog bowls are about $7 each and can take a good beating
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Re: Tank setup
 Originally Posted by Stark5050
It it is a hygrometer and thermostat together, it runs the mini fogger and UTH.
I can't believe I didn't catch this before, but are you talking about the ZooMed HygroTherm?
The reason I ask is that I really don't think that's the best Tstat for controlling a UTH. Don't get me wrong, it's a great controller, and I use one myself, but the size of the probe coupled with the fact that it can't be used directly on the bottom of the cage (inside or out) means it's really best for ambient air temp.
If you're using something else, just disregard all of that.
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